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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Having to have the disc present in the drive before you can play is what PC gaming was like before Steam came along a decade ago. With consoles you can't even download 'NoCD' patches!
    A console with a NoCD patch...hmmm...buy game, install game, patch game, trade game back on same day, total spent = £5...I think I can see why!

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    I like the return of pre-owned games and game rentals but in the process we have lost three things

    1. game sharing which would have meant if I listed you as my family we could have played each other's games for free.

    2. Playing games without needing the disk in the console. Which interrupts the seamless flow from one game to another. Now you are going to have to get off the sofa to change disk, but at least the always on Kinect will be able to measure the carlories burned while you do this.

    3. By removing pre-owned DRM it has removed a strong source of continued revenue for the publisher. Which in the long term could have meant i. More money sunk into games and game development with publishers taking risks so more interesting games, rather than 'People like first person shooters let's write another one of those' ii.a Steam for consoles and much cheaper games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    The game sharing feature was one of the best things about the Xbox One.
    It was kinda of neutered by limiting to 1 person at a time for each game. Still meant buying multicopies of games to play multiplayer in the same household. They should have gone for 4 not 10 family members and allowed everyone to play all the games at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    I like the return of pre-owned games and game rentals but in the process we have lost three things
    LOL, damned if the don't, damned if they do.

    I always said there's nothing inherintly wrong with DRM if it's handled correctly. MS have made a complete pigs ear out of the entire situation! I take it the DRM as gone from download games as well as disc games? They should have kept it in tact for download purchases and only required the disc in the drive for disc purchases. Oh well.

    It was a generation too soon, and their handling of it may have buggered their chances at getting right next time as well. PS4 is still £80 cheaper with more usable RAM and a faster GPU...

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    The cynic in my thinks this was all an elaborate, incredibly risky, marketing ploy...

    1) Announce something nobody likes
    2) Do a U-turn and look like the good guys
    3) ???
    4) PROFIT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    The cynic in my thinks this was all an elaborate, incredibly risky, marketing ploy...

    1) Announce something nobody likes
    2) Do a U-turn and look like the good guys
    3) ???
    4) PROFIT!
    I was thinking the same thing - this U-turn seemed far too quick and easy.

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    I don't think there was anything wrong with their original plan. They needed to tweak it a little but it was sound. Their problem was poor marketing. The entire marketing campaign so far has been a shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korifugi View Post
    I was thinking the same thing - this U-turn seemed far too quick and easy.
    TBH, I'm still not getting it.

    I refuse to support a company who thought this was a good idea, even if they U-turn.


    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I don't think there was anything wrong with their original plan.
    I prefer to own the things I buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I don't think there was anything wrong with their original plan. They needed to tweak it a little but it was sound. Their problem was poor marketing. The entire marketing campaign so far has been a shambles.
    +1

    I don't think this is a marketing ploy. There is going to be a day one patch to disable alot of the features on the Xbox One (Link). Personally I'm disappointed but it may have been too much, too soon.
    Last edited by Ghostgame; 20th June 2013 at 08:52 AM. Reason: Read back and went what??

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    You can all shoot me down but I would have liked a steam esk xbox with drm. I imagine at some point I would be able to buy second hand games directly in the xbox menu etc.

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    Xbox one > Bin
    Ps4 > Bin
    Pc > Heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutech4schools View Post
    You can all shoot me down but I would have liked a steam esk xbox with drm. I imagine at some point I would be able to buy second hand games directly in the xbox menu etc.
    If it was run by Valve... But, this is Microsoft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyknight View Post
    Xbox one > Bin
    Ps4 > Bin
    Pc > Heaven.
    I can;t believe it @Sunnyknight, another opinion of yours I agree with!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by edutech4schools View Post
    You can all shoot me down but I would have liked a steam esk xbox with drm. I imagine at some point I would be able to buy second hand games directly in the xbox menu etc.
    Just wait for the Steam Box then.
    Last edited by Rawns; 20th June 2013 at 09:13 AM.

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    Xbox one > Bin
    Ps4 > Bin
    Pc > Heaven.
    problem for me is the children also like to play games and being able to push a button and play without all the other pc stuff is a must. Wish I had the cash for console and decent pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutech4schools View Post
    You can all shoot me down but I would have liked a steam esk xbox with drm. I imagine at some point I would be able to buy second hand games directly in the xbox menu etc.
    With a well managed online delivery system second had games are not even needed. A few month after release you should start seeing special offers and discounts. Then there's the classics and platinum budget ranges. And both companies now give away full games with their annual subscriptions.

    I think I'll be buying the first 2-3 games on PS4 on disc - just because. But after that I think I'll go over to full download only since everything will be available day one anyway and I have the net connection for it . For the most part I'll probably wait for the discounts or budget release rather than buy day one, or hope Sony give it away with PS+ in the future - depending on the game.

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