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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    Make much use of linux on the PS3 then?
    I only bought a ps3 after a while as the 360 had superior gaming/online but I eventually wanted to try GT (aka cars on rails part 6) and Yellow dog to find a month later my install was dead.
    Sony, the company that removes a feature they heavily promoted because there was a v slim chance it could be used to play cracked games (and that presumes they couldnt prevent it) and this is before we get to their rather chequered past with CD DRM schemes etc.
    The biggest problem with the PS4 is Sony.... and Jack Tretton
    I am hoping they have learned, I suppose they have to considering the books are so bad, but until I see Sony not being typical Sony I doubt I will be buying. This includes the crap they put out as PR statements like children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    Well, you are in the lucky 50%

    Xbox 360 failure rate = 54.2%? - GameSpot
    Thats a survey! not a fact by a long way, have you not seen how easy it is to get a survey to say what you want??

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    @ZeroHour beat me too it. I could do a survey now, and ask such a skewed question that it will look like that MS are gods compared to Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    Thats a survey! not a fact by a long way, have you not seen how easy it is to get a survey to say what you want??
    If you don't ask people how are you going to find out? Ask Microsoft?

    Have you looked into it apart from saying you're OK therefor it's not a problem?

    This was their response to that particular survey:

    We are constantly improving the design, manufacture and performance of the console through extensive testing of potential sources of any problems. Xbox 360 is pleased to maintain the title of 'most played console' and the vast majority of Xbox 360 customers have enjoyed a terrific gaming and entertainment experience since their first day, and continue to, day in and day out.

    GDC08 MS announced they got their failure rates on new unites down to that of other consoles.

    There's a wiki article on it here if you want to read more about it:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_3...nical_problems

    MS put aside 1BN for 360 replacements:
    Microsoft takes $1b hit over Xbox 360 glitches - The Microsoft Blog

    Warranty company SquareTrade had the failure rate at 17% with their returns. Tech standard is 3%-6% for "acceptable" failure rate.

    Some PS4's are going to fail and if its like other consoles it is likely to be atleast one in every 30.

    Like I said, credit to MS for giving everyone 3 year warranties until the redesigned "slim" model (dropped down to 1 year again).
    Last edited by Theblacksheep; 14th November 2013 at 04:47 PM.

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    I am waiting for the PS4 slim the PS3 is still a great Media centre.

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    Looks like the Internet shall be fun to watch this weekend if PS4's are dropping like flies across the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    Warranty company SquareTrade had the failure rate at 17% with their returns. Tech standard is 3%-6% for "acceptable" failure rate.

    Like I said, credit to MS for giving everyone 3 year warranties until the redesigned "slim" model (dropped down to 1 year again).
    I have a first Gen Xbox360 Elite, and a slim. Both have been played heavily. My first gen Elite was played for close to 4000 hours before getting the slim model, and since getting the slim, has had maybe a further 1000 hours on top by the mrs.

    My slim has had close to 2000 hours since its release.

    Neither xbox has let me down, and I don't know anyone personally that had a RROD. Considering my friends list on xbox is also close to 100 people, and none of them have had any issues with the xbox either, seems like we must all be lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I have a first Gen Xbox360 Elite, and a slim.
    It was the genuine 1st gen premium and core models with 95nm that were prone. Elite wasn't until 2007 and had the 65nm chip. You've not been lucky, they sorted themselves out by then.




    Not for you @nephilim, just didnt want to double post:

    4,000 people got their PS4's early from a Taco Bell promotion, with a currently failure rate of 0.17%

    OMG! Failz! OMG!

    Some people are just dying to post bad news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholab View Post
    I am waiting for the PS4 slim
    Dear God - how much slimmer do you want it/can they make it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    4,000 people got their PS4's early from a Taco Bell promotion, with a currently failure rate of 0.17%
    0.17% failure? I'm happy taking my chances with those odds

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    Still a considerable percentage with a figure that will invariably go UP when more people get theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I have a first Gen Xbox360 Elite, and a slim. Both have been played heavily. My first gen Elite was played for close to 4000 hours before getting the slim model, and since getting the slim, has had maybe a further 1000 hours on top by the mrs.

    My slim has had close to 2000 hours since its release.

    Neither xbox has let me down, and I don't know anyone personally that had a RROD. Considering my friends list on xbox is also close to 100 people, and none of them have had any issues with the xbox either, seems like we must all be lucky.
    At the end of the day - both consoles are hardware and hardware will always fail at some point ( whether straight away, within a few months or within a number of years ) so I don't really care if one fails more than the other or visa versa etc, as long as I have cover so I can get it repaired / sorted out ie get a replacement one etc then I ain't too fussed

    Also some people I know prefer a gaming PC Rig to a console as they prefer to use a keyboard and mouse instead of a controller like the xbox or PS 3 / 4 or whatever console

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    Considering my friends list on xbox is also close to 100 people, and none of them have had any issues with the xbox either, seems like we must all be lucky.
    About 100 out of > 40 million [taken from here dated 10th Jan 2012]... yeah that's a representitive study.

    Your fanboy is showing.
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    Seems an appropriate point to post the above video

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    About 100 out of > 40 million [taken from here dated 10th Jan 2012]... yeah that's a representitive study.

    Your fanboy is showing.
    Nope...just showing how skewed things can be. Not saying because its not happened to my friends it hasn't happened at all...just saying that I've not seen it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Here's an interesting size comparison
    Here's another good size comparison. Click the image for more.


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