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    What's that sound in the distance?

    Reckon it could be the death knell for console gaming....

    Does anyone think any of this is a good idea? Kill the 2nd-hand market...kill the console. My stepson would no longer be able to trade in games for the newest release. He'd have to wait for Xmas and birthdays, and I don't think teenagers are built with patience pre-installed. That's more of an early-20's download!

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    I honestly think this is a load of hogwash...wanna know why? They'll close the market for themselves, no company in their right mind would consider this!

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    Have you played on a Wii U? They are shocking...its difficult to keep up with what to focus on and it is just horrendous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    Have you played on a Wii U? They are shocking...its difficult to keep up with what to focus on and it is just horrendous!
    Yeah got to be honest, I played my brother-in-law's over Xmas and it was hard to stifle my "so what?"

    The tablet doesn't add much in games I've seen so far; you still need to pause the game to look at the tablet screen, so there's not really any benefit over it not just being in an on screen menu, and the touch features are awkward - there's a Fruit Ninja clone on one of the discs he has and I just found it awkward to look at the TV whilst swiping randomly on the touch screen... the Wii-U, I think, tries to solve a problem nobody has, and creates more problems in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Considering there isn't that many decent games for it yet and the issues with moving old virtual console games... I'm not surprised.

    Once a new Zelda comes out, it may sell better. [It's what I'm waiting for.] Wind Waker HD is going to be good for it too.

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    I'm more excited about Steam for Linux having now been released from beta!

    It means they are happy for it to be a production piece of software, and therefore a console can't be *that* far away for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I'm more excited about Steam for Linux having now been released from beta!

    I'm still trying to find somewhere that actually sells steam cards in this country... I know GAME apparently do, but I've never seen them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Are Nintendo now where Sega was a decade ago with the Dreamcast?

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    My local Tesco have a couple of steam cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Are Nintendo now where Sega was a decade ago with the Dreamcast?
    Not really.

    They could just release a cheap, regular controller and drop the tablet requirement.

    It'd be a Wii2 and everyone would love it... possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Wind Waker HD is going to be good for it too.
    Wind Waker HD does look good, but I have long since given up buying consoles (the original PlayStation was my last). PC all the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Are Nintendo now where Sega was a decade ago with the Dreamcast?
    It is starting to look that way, although it's probably worse now because there is far more competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    They could just release a cheap, regular controller and drop the tablet requirement.
    They could also release an iOS or Android app that does the same job as their Wii-U tablet, but they won't do that because they are too stubborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Wind Waker HD does look good, but I have long since given up buying consoles (the original PlayStation was my last). PC all the way!
    It LOOKS good.

    But, Wind waker is tedious. I started replaying it a while back and got bored of the sailing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    They could also release an iOS or Android app that does the same job as their Wii-U tablet, but they won't do that because they are too stubborn.
    Which would result in nobody using it. [From a dev standpoint]

    If it's optional, and requires an expensive device to be bought to use it [if you don't have one already], hardly any gamers are going to use it. Which means devs won't even bother utilising it... which means gamers won't use it as there's no games for it.


    Forcing the tablet lets them [ninty et al] use it as they KNOW everyone that plays the game has the tablet.

    WHY they need it is another matter... It's a cool concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'm still trying to find somewhere that actually sells steam cards in this country... I know GAME apparently do, but I've never seen them.
    I've seen them in the one in Leeds center, they hide them in the PC section, but they're in boxes like they do with Microsoft Points, rather than being on a plastic card like PSN cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    It LOOKS good.

    But, Wind waker is tedious. I started replaying it a while back and got bored of the sailing.




    Which would result in nobody using it. [From a dev standpoint]

    If it's optional, and requires an expensive device to be bought to use it [if you don't have one already], hardly any gamers are going to use it. Which means devs won't even bother utilising it... which means gamers won't use it as there's no games for it.


    Forcing the tablet lets them [ninty et al] use it as they KNOW everyone that plays the game has the tablet.

    WHY they need it is another matter... It's a cool concept.
    But one of the Wii-U's biggest problems is the tablet itself, it's expensive to produce. Releasing an iOS or Android app to act as another controller would be cheaper. Wii-U prices could be reduced and games can start using more then one tablet. Right now the tablets are such an expensive gimmick they can't even be bought seperately.

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