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    Papercut 13

    PaperCut 13.0 – Archive and view print activity – PaperCut Blog / News

    ^ This is very, very cool. I love this software!

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    Thanks for the shout out, we're pretty proud of it. I'm keen to see the specific scenarios that sys admins apply this functionality to, and what enhancements everyone thinks of, so I'll keep an eye on any and all comments here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianatpapercut View Post
    and what enhancements everyone thinks of, so I'll keep an eye on any and all comments here.
    Web print from odt,odp,ods would be nice to complement the docx,pptx,xlsx,pdf.
    It should be fairly easy to implement, given the OpenOffice/LibreOffice has command line conversion and print to file: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/...ith_Parameters

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Web print from odt,odp,ods would be nice to complement the docx,pptx,xlsx,pdf.
    It should be fairly easy to implement, given the OpenOffice/LibreOffice has command line conversion and print to file: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/...ith_Parameters
    Hah, I was mainly referring to Print Archiving, however I will see what I can do about getting support added for those file formats. Thanks for the link, I'll have a look at that and make sure it'll do what we need to offer the same WebPrint functionality.

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    Great feature. When I upgrade to it, I'll have a play! Will be great for tracking who is printing what when they print to the kids printers. A bit of a complex feature would be some form of document analysis - so if it contained a certain percentage of skin tones, it could be flagged etc... (to highlight if kids are printing porn or something!)

    A feature that would be great - built in iPad/iPhone support, without needing a dedicated server for it. With so much becoming cloud based, and people using cloud tools to manage their iPads, they (like us) don't have an Apple server to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Great feature. When I upgrade to it, I'll have a play! Will be great for tracking who is printing what when they print to the kids printers. A bit of a complex feature would be some form of document analysis - so if it contained a certain percentage of skin tones, it could be flagged etc... (to highlight if kids are printing porn or something!)
    That's certainly a complex one just due to the surprisingly vast variation in colour rendering approaches between models [b]and[b/] manufacturers, but never say never! We do keep a track of all interesting requests, how many customers have requested it, the size and type of those organisations, etc. Hopefully Print Archiving is a good first step at least to help you deal with the inappropriate usage.

    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    A feature that would be great - built in iPad/iPhone support, without needing a dedicated server for it. With so much becoming cloud based, and people using cloud tools to manage their iPads, they (like us) don't have an Apple server to do this.
    It's something that's possible (and as an ex-sys admin I can totally understand the reasons behind the request), but there are a couple of reasons why we haven't gone down that path. You've probably seen them in our documentation and knowledge base, but they boil down to a significant engineering commitment to duplicate Apple's Airprint stack and then rebuild it as they change things (as has already happened since Airprint's release). The desire to avoid annoying Cupertino is also somewhere in the mix. Given the small hardware investment of a Mac Mini has been taken up by a large number of customers specifically to support iPad printing, we're not looking to go down the more involved path at this stage.

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    Some integration with cloudprint may also be useful, and let them deal with the ipad then...
    https://developers.google.com/cloud-print/

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Some integration with cloudprint may also be useful, and let them deal with the ipad then...
    https://developers.google.com/cloud-print/
    Good eye; it's one of the many potential integration projects we've got. At this point the critical mass isn't quite there to justify it in comparison to something like Print Archiving, but adding functionality to authenticate and retrieve GCP jobs, then insert them into already PaperCut-managed queues would be a great major feature.

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    It would be nice for me as a user to send a print, have the print go into papercut be archived and then be available for me as an end user to reprint at any time i wish. Handy for users who tend to print the same document often (time tables or attendance sheets etc) .

    Going a step further before i release my job from the archive as an end user i would love to be able to preview it on a PC or MFD

    Last of all as an admin having papercut automatically scan the archived jobs for keywords/content/urls etc. (for inappropriate content, perhaps just detect large amounts of flesh colour /pink? )

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    Just saw today that papercut was released (at last) and when I saw what this version brings.. well.. I am seriously impressed! Far too often we have students printing "Document 1" and "Untitled" and unless they are sending alot through of the same copy, it's almost impossible to trace who has sent the spam/rubbish on the printer.
    We're on v10 now so definitely I think time for us to move upwards, though still waiting after 2 years for the ability to filter printers in the print release queue before seeing a list of pending jobs, which is very important for us to be able to do (just thought i'd throw that one in there again)!

    But yes very, very good feature and it's why papercut is still one of our best, value-for-money purchases we've ever made

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgsmith View Post
    Just saw today that papercut was released (at last) and when I saw what this version brings.. well.. I am seriously impressed! Far too often we have students printing "Document 1" and "Untitled" and unless they are sending alot through of the same copy, it's almost impossible to trace who has sent the spam/rubbish on the printer.
    We tackled this with document name bans. Document1 Workbook1 etc... were all banned. They had to name them first. Seemed to work ok for us.

    But yes very, very good feature and it's why papercut is still one of our best, value-for-money purchases we've ever made
    Yup! Agree entirely. We've just signed up for a further 5 year support contract.

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    don't forget the security implications, theoretically, anyone with admin access can view any document printed by anyone. Imagine them turning the feature on just for the day that the Payroll run is done !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukwebb View Post
    don't forget the security implications, theoretically, anyone with admin access can view any document printed by anyone. Imagine them turning the feature on just for the day that the Payroll run is done !!!!!
    So could any admin just open the payroll documents direct off the server though...

    There's always got to be trust with network admins and sensitive information. Yes some may abuse it, most don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukwebb View Post
    don't forget the security implications, theoretically, anyone with admin access can view any document printed by anyone. Imagine them turning the feature on just for the day that the Payroll run is done !!!!!
    How does that differ to a network admin having access to sensitive documents on a day-to-day basis? I don't know for sure seeing as we have yet to upgrade, but I imagine papercut will have perhaps put in the ability for certain printers to not log a screenshot of the documents being printed, and if this doesn't exist I guess it may be useful to have this ability.

    But still in saying that it isn't really any different to having the standard level of access network admins have to certain areas anyway. If it causes a problem for us when we upgrade, we'll simply just omit the sensitive printers from papercut logging seeing as this feature (from a school point of view) is only really beneficial for logging student activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgsmith View Post
    How does that differ to a network admin having access to sensitive documents on a day-to-day basis? I don't know for sure seeing as we have yet to upgrade, but I imagine papercut will have perhaps put in the ability for certain printers to not log a screenshot of the documents being printed, and if this doesn't exist I guess it may be useful to have this ability.

    But still in saying that it isn't really any different to having the standard level of access network admins have to certain areas anyway. If it causes a problem for us when we upgrade, we'll simply just omit the sensitive printers from papercut logging seeing as this feature (from a school point of view) is only really beneficial for logging student activity.
    the big differences are that for a network admin to view the payroll data normally, they'd have to also install the payroll programme, whereas any user 'could' view PNG files !, especially as the images are viewable via the web interface, so you dont actually need server access to see them!

    as you correctly say you can indeed restrict who can view the documents, and also change which users and or printers are actually monitored

    The key point though, is to remember that an option that allows users to be monitored silently can be equally be abused silently!!! if you do use this brilliant new feature, remember to lock it down too!

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