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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    No I don't agree actually.
    So you dont agree that getting porn on google images isnt a serious issue......?? Resolving this issue is the highest priority in our school at the moment. Shame others dont agree.
    Last edited by FN-GM; 6th June 2013 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    So you dont agree that getting porn on google images isnt a serious issue......
    FN-GM, this is not a clear cut case of porn, the thread was removed at 3:05pm approx and restored at 4:53pm, we are not talking about a huge amount of time given the concerns.
    We had wanted to be quicker but that couldnt be helped and considering it was regarding CP I would hope no one would think we didnt act as prudently as possible.
    This was not to defend companies but prevent people browsing to sites which could cause questions to be raised (even though it was innocent) if discovered in logs later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    FN-GM, this is not a clear cut case of porn, the thread was removed at 3:05pm approx and restored at 4:53pm, we are not talking about a huge amount of time given the concerns.
    We had wanted to be quicker but that couldnt be helped and considering it was regarding CP I would hope no one would think we didnt act as prudently as possible.
    This was not to defend companies but prevent people browsing to sites which could cause questions to be raised (even though it was innocent) if discovered in logs later.
    I didn't say it was about companies. Its just there is good info on there to prevent this from happening. As you say its a CP issue and its serious, i am shocked that @elsiegee40 doesn't agree!

    The problem now is we are unable to work on it anymore today...

    Thanks for getting it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    So you dont agree that getting porn on google images isnt a serious issue......?? Resolving this issue is the highest priority in our school at the moment. Shame others dont agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    FN-GM, this is not a clear cut case of porn, the thread was removed at 3:05pm approx and restored at 4:53pm, we are not talking about a huge amount of time given the concerns.
    We had wanted to be quicker but that couldnt be helped and considering it was regarding CP I would hope no one would think we didnt act as prudently as possible.
    This was not to defend companies but prevent people browsing to sites which could cause questions to be raised (even though it was innocent) if discovered in logs later.
    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM
    I didn't say it was about companies. Its just there is good info on there to prevent this from happening. As you say its a CP issue and its serious, i am shocked that @elsiegee40 doesn't agree!

    The problem now is we are unable to work on it anymore today...

    Thanks for getting it back.
    To summarise... get real and grow up! This is a very serious issue and the CP and Safeguarding threat meant that it had to be addressed urgently on edugeek too. It took ZH a little over an hour. i would love to think Google would act this quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    To summarise... get real and grow up! This is a very serious issue and the CP and Safeguarding threat meant that it had to be addressed urgently on edugeek too. It took ZH a little over an hour. i would love to think Google would act this quickly.
    So why in post 11 did you say "No I don't agree actually." When i was referring to this google problem? Then you say it is serious?

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    No I wasn't agreeing with you regarding taking the thread away

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    No I wasn't agreeing with you regarding taking the thread away
    @elsiegee40

    I wasn't even saying that. I wasn't talking about the thread being removed. Have a look not once did i say that you would agree with it being removed. I was talking about the google issue. I quote myself from post 10 "I am sure you will agree this is an urgent matter to resolve. Edugeek have now removed the resources that will help to address this serious issue."

    I agree that i should have been if it was a CP issue. It would have been nice to be told.

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    Good call taking it down if it was CP related. Hopefully the IWF will sort that particular site out if it has CP issues!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    As you say its a CP issue and its serious, i am shocked that @elsiegee40 doesn't agree!

    The problem now is we are unable to work on it anymore today...
    She did agree, you quoted only the first sentence of her point, the point is that it had only been a short amount of time I suspect and not that blocking porn was not urgent.
    This thread is descending into trolling so its on the cusp of being locked.

    Regarding the timeline, there is nothing we (edugeek) can do about when you finish work etc, we have said we wanted to get information as fast as possible but not as the risk of being incorrect or useless just so people get the half facts before 3:30.
    The timeline is what is it...

    I posted a statement which gave as much as could safely confirm with the hopes that people would realise we are going as fast as possible and no its not ideal removing the whole thread but its better then leaving the issue open, especially since we were hoping to restore the majority of it once concluded.

    Have faith all, we were trying to prevent issues for you the user while collecting as many facts as possible, we couldnt say more at the time, it sucks but thats life.

    EDIT: We only removed the thread because we have to check each post for issues before putting it live again, that thread had a lot of replies and rather than miss a quoted post leaving the CP issue live we removed the thread until we were sure. This is a common sense approach I think at least.
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    I wasn't even saying that. I wasn't talking about the thread being removed. Have a look not once did i say that elsiegee40 would agree with it being removed. I was talking about the google issue. I quote myself from post 10 "I am sure you will agree this is an urgent matter to resolve. Edugeek have now removed the resources that will help to address this serious issue." If i was talking about the thread being removed my quote would not make sense.

    I agree that i should have been if it was a CP issue. It would have been nice to be told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    I agree that i should have been if it was a CP issue. It would have been nice to be told.
    You were told at 4:53pm when we had confirmed the relevant authorities had been informed and we were confident the thread contained no more references to the problematic site.
    We couldnt tell you at 3:05pm because we have no confirmed facts but enough information to cause us to investigate and pull the thread in case. You dont leave the thread open and public while you investigate a CP issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    @elsiegee40 i am sure you will agree this is an urgent matter to resolve. Edugeek have now removed the resources that will help to address this serious issue. Edugeek was here to help us, all its done by removing it has made things harder.
    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    No I don't agree actually. It hasn't been gone weeks. Just a short length of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    So why in post 11 did you say "No I don't agree actually." When i was referring to this google problem? Then you say it is serious?
    For what it's worth, I think you will find that @elsiegee40 was saying she didn't agree that taking away the post was making things harder to solve. You were already aware of the issue, many of the big players in the filtering business were on the case, as were a lot of the GFLs around the country thanks to the fact this issue was raised on EduGeek.

    If there were CP concerns with the thread then taking it down is the right thing to do, with or without an explanation. They may simply (as has been pointed out) not had an explanation to give, or be able to say anything about it until fully investigated as they have their own backs to watch too in terms of legal cases being brought against them.

    I for one think that they operate a brilliant resource, and for one item been taken down for just over an hour is quite impressive to get a resolve.

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    @ZeroHour

    Great work as always pal! Reckon you did a through and efficient job whilst maintaining just the right level of interaction. I certainly wouldn't have done any differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soveryapt View Post
    For what it's worth, I think you will find that @elsiegee40 was saying she didn't agree that taking away the post was making things harder to solve. You were already aware of the issue, many of the big players in the filtering business were on the case, as were a lot of the GFLs around the country thanks to the fact this issue was raised on EduGeek.

    If there were CP concerns with the thread then taking it down is the right thing to do, with or without an explanation. They may simply (as has been pointed out) not had an explanation to give, or be able to say anything about it until fully investigated as they have their own backs to watch too in terms of legal cases being brought against them.

    I for one think that they operate a brilliant resource, and for one item been taken down for just over an hour is quite impressive to get a resolve.
    At the end of the day i said "I am sure you will agree this is an urgent matter to resolve. Edugeek have now removed the resources that will help to address this serious issue." I didn't say "I am sure you will agree all all its done by removing it has made things harder". @elsiegee40 seemed to have got the wrong end of the stick and was disagreeing with something i didnt say. I did say that it made things harder but i didn't say she would agree. i said she would agree its a serious issue.
    Last edited by FN-GM; 6th June 2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    At the end of the day i said "I am sure you will agree this is an urgent matter to resolve. Edugeek have now removed the resources that will help to address this serious issue." I didn't say "I am sure you will agreell all its done by removing it has made things harder".
    Yes, but can you not see there is a simple misunderstanding.. @elsiegee40 was trying to respond to your issues .. you haven't really seemed to be on receive with regards to the responses that have been given, just on strike mode which makes their job as mods and admins all the harder..

    Fact, you said "Edugeek was here to help us, all its done by removing it has made things harder." which is what she was disagreeing with. Just accept, it was a simply a misunderstanding on which part she didn't agree with. They needed to check something, they couldn't say something at the time, the issue is dealt with, the post is back, people are working on a fix, job done, and all very promptly given the fact @ZeroHour will of had to consult a number of different area and organisations I'm sure!

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