Optimise PHP & Apache Configuration

maniac · 11-07-2008, 07:27 PM

As DMcCoy has posted above, if it's fast browsing it on the server, then it's almost definitely not PHP and probably not apache holding things up. If it's also the same speed when you browse it from within the same LAN, then I think you can illiminate the server causing your problems all together.

You then need to look at the next link in the chain. Where does it go next when you view it from outside? If it's an ISA box or simelar then this would be my next port of call to troubleshoot this problem.

Mike.

FN-GM · 11-07-2008, 07:30 PM

When you browse in the same LAN its slow

Quote:

You then need to look at the next link in the chain. Where does it go next when you view it from outside? If it's an ISA box or simelar then this would be my next port of call to troubleshoot this problem

We have bypassed all that kind of stuff and it gives the same result

SYNACK · 11-07-2008, 07:36 PM

According to firebug you have a fair few images that are called for but do not exist, this could be slowing it down:

x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/headerkuva
x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_history1.jpg
x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_gerrard.jpg
x.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_football.jpg
x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_newart.jpg
x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_ict1.jpg
x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_history%202.jpg
x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/top_bg.png
x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/footerpalkki.gif

Other than that it appears to load quite quickly.

FN-GM · 11-07-2008, 07:49 PM

I don’t think it is that when I remove the images it’s the same slow speed. Also when you access a page with little on it directly for example URL Removed it’s still slow. When you navigate to the same page from the home page its nice and fast.

Also if you go to URL Removed then to the home page its fast.

Do you get what i mean?

HTML seems fine but the PHP site is slow

maniac · 11-07-2008, 08:01 PM

As its slow to initially load, but is then quick I would look at how your PHP sessions are handled. I think joomla uses sessions which are valid for a short while, which is why the first page you visit is slow (it could be trying to create the session and failing?) then loading subsequent pages is fast.

Does that sound plausable to anyone who understands sessions a bit more than me??

Mike.

FN-GM · 11-07-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniac

As its slow to initially load, but is then quick I would look at how your PHP sessions are handled. I think joomla uses sessions which are valid for a short while, which is why the first page you visit is slow (it could be trying to create the session and failing?) then loading subsequent pages is fast.

Does that sound plausable to anyone who understands sessions a bit more than me??

Mike.

means nothing to me

DMcCoy · 11-07-2008, 08:08 PM

Are files being create in this path:

session.save_path = "C:\xampp\tmp"

With random looking names? The user running apache needs write permissions to this folder.

FN-GM · 11-07-2008, 08:16 PM

Yes it seems to. I have a attached a screenshot

Thanks for all the help! but please keep it coming

Galway · 11-07-2008, 08:18 PM

Clone the partition to create a backup.
Format, reinstall & service pack.
Create another installation and ensure this is not a corrupt installation.
You could go round in circles and still not get anywhere.

FN-GM · 11-07-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galway

Clone the partition to create a backup.
Format, reinstall & service pack.
Create another installation and ensure this is not a corrupt installation.
You could go round in circles and still not get anywhere.

Might be worth a try, i only installed last Friday though. That will be something for Monday.

FN-GM · 12-07-2008, 05:40 PM

Any more suggestions please?

FN-GM · 14-07-2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galway

Clone the partition to create a backup.
Format, reinstall & service pack.
Create another installation and ensure this is not a corrupt installation.
You could go round in circles and still not get anywhere.

Ok, i have just done that and still no joy

Anyone any more ideas please?

Geoff · 14-07-2008, 12:13 PM

The basic problem is that you are using Windows are your platform. While I don't deny it works, apache generates a lot of context switches. This totally destroys performance. You have a couple of ways of avoiding this however.

1) Change your webserver software. Basically use IIS.
2) Change your OS to one that handles Apache better. Basically use a *nix OS.

Quackers · 14-07-2008, 12:26 PM

If your going to do Option 1 that geoff suggests, move it to IIS, we run our Joomla site on IIS and its quick and runs like a dream.

Can link to a video tutorial if you want to get PHP working with IIS too.

FN-GM · 14-07-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Can link to a video tutorial if you want to get PHP working with IIS too.

That would be good thanks!

If all else fails i will try linux. What distro do you recomend? Preferably one with a GUI

Thanks

Z

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11-07-2008, 07:36 PM	#18
SYNACK Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,650 Thanks: 59 Thanked 245 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 53	According to firebug you have a fair few images that are called for but do not exist, this could be slowing it down: x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/headerkuva x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_history1.jpg x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_gerrard.jpg x.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_football.jpg x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_newart.jpg x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_ict1.jpg x.co.uk/images/stories/smoothgallery/thumbs/tn_history%202.jpg x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/top_bg.png x.co.uk/templates/eg_brown/images/footerpalkki.gif Other than that it appears to load quite quickly. Last edited by SYNACK; 23-08-2008 at 02:26 AM.. Reason: Remove links that were messing with schools placement in Google search

11-07-2008, 07:49 PM	#19
FN-GM Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,807 Thanks: 156 Thanked 156 Times in 150 Posts Rep Power: 37	I don’t think it is that when I remove the images it’s the same slow speed. Also when you access a page with little on it directly for example URL Removed it’s still slow. When you navigate to the same page from the home page its nice and fast. Also if you go to URL Removed then to the home page its fast. Do you get what i mean? HTML seems fine but the PHP site is slow Last edited by FN-GM; 22-08-2008 at 09:21 PM..

11-07-2008, 08:16 PM	#23
FN-GM Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,807 Thanks: 156 Thanked 156 Times in 150 Posts Rep Power: 37	Yes it seems to. I have a attached a screenshot Thanks for all the help! but please keep it coming Attached Thumbnails

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11-07-2008, 07:27 PM	#16
maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 1,311 Thanks: 38 Thanked 69 Times in 59 Posts Rep Power: 18	As DMcCoy has posted above, if it's fast browsing it on the server, then it's almost definitely not PHP and probably not apache holding things up. If it's also the same speed when you browse it from within the same LAN, then I think you can illiminate the server causing your problems all together. You then need to look at the next link in the chain. Where does it go next when you view it from outside? If it's an ISA box or simelar then this would be my next port of call to troubleshoot this problem. Mike.

11-07-2008, 08:01 PM	#20
maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 1,311 Thanks: 38 Thanked 69 Times in 59 Posts Rep Power: 18	As its slow to initially load, but is then quick I would look at how your PHP sessions are handled. I think joomla uses sessions which are valid for a short while, which is why the first page you visit is slow (it could be trying to create the session and failing?) then loading subsequent pages is fast. Does that sound plausable to anyone who understands sessions a bit more than me?? Mike.

11-07-2008, 08:08 PM	#22
DMcCoy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 1,901 Thanks: 2 Thanked 108 Times in 100 Posts Rep Power: 29	Are files being create in this path: session.save_path = "C:\xampp\tmp" With random looking names? The user running apache needs write permissions to this folder.

11-07-2008, 08:18 PM	#24
Galway Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 119 Thanks: 1 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Rep Power: 5	Clone the partition to create a backup. Format, reinstall & service pack. Create another installation and ensure this is not a corrupt installation. You could go round in circles and still not get anywhere.

12-07-2008, 05:40 PM	#26
FN-GM Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,807 Thanks: 156 Thanked 156 Times in 150 Posts Rep Power: 37	Any more suggestions please?

14-07-2008, 12:13 PM	#28
Geoff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fylde, Lancs, UK. Posts: 9,839 Thanks: 41 Thanked 217 Times in 198 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 64	The basic problem is that you are using Windows are your platform. While I don't deny it works, apache generates a lot of context switches. This totally destroys performance. You have a couple of ways of avoiding this however. 1) Change your webserver software. Basically use IIS. 2) Change your OS to one that handles Apache better. Basically use a *nix OS.

14-07-2008, 12:26 PM	#29
Quackers Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 529 Thanks: 2 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 10	If your going to do Option 1 that geoff suggests, move it to IIS, we run our Joomla site on IIS and its quick and runs like a dream. Can link to a video tutorial if you want to get PHP working with IIS too.

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