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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    I haven't managed to create an MSI from new ever.

    I did use the Winstl that came with Windows 2000 CD, but this was a while back, and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work on WinXP.

    I haven't ever produced any MSTs ever, not quite sure how to (I probably should read the manual). I do use Orca to tidy up some supplied MSIs, the thing I always do is remove the shortcuts, as they nver go where I want them to, I have arranged the Start Menu and Desktops, to be organised by subjects, and I cut out a lot of the shortcuts for stuff that installs, but never needs to be run independently (like Java, Shockwave, Plugins, Xvid, etc).

    I have installed the plugins for Office, to enable Office 2007/Open Office docs to open, but one of them is an .exe (or when opened it is an MST, but I haven't deployed Office 2003 this way).

    This usually means I end up renaming each MSI to My%app%.msi.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    The Winstle stuff that comes with Windows 2000 server works fine with Windows XP. There was a newer version available (Wininstall 2003) but I now can't find it (it came from On Demand but they now seem to be Attachmate and don't seem to have the free version available)

    It's worth persevering with it because it does make life much easier.

    If you can use Orca to tidy up MSIs then you can use it to make a transform - it's easy :-) Basically, just create a new transform and add properties, for example. You then generate the transform and you get an MST file. When you install, you specify this MST to go with the MSI and the changes you made get applied to the MSI. The effect is the same as adding properties to the MSI but you don't change the MSI. This also gives you flexibility if you want it - you can have different MSTs for different situations.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    I found a link to Wininstall LE.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmoseley

    http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?16500000037147

    Although you do have to select a mirror

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt
    Most stuff I tend to try and create AutoIT files for and use psexec to get it onto a users PC..
    I wish someone would document how to do this.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Sims.NET
    Adobe products
    Apple products
    Exambase and Exampro

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Net Support
    PTC Pro Desktop

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwood
    Net Support
    PTC Pro Desktop
    NetSupport has its own nifty deployment utils though.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    It does, but we have a system whereby staff can download packages from the Intranet onto their laptops (this saves them bringing it to us everytime they want something installing).

    It would have been handy to be able to package the tutor part of the software but it links with the graphics drivers, so it only works reliably on the same type of computer as what you use to build the package.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Raise Achievment in Religious studies.

    Does anyone know a good how to for Orca?

    At the moment I'm looking at Wise Install Tailor to make transforms, doesn't work with most MSIs, which is a shame becuase it's very easy to use.

    Oh, Autograph 3.20 gets my seal of approval. MSI and a custom MST tool, only thing you can't change is the start menu location.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwood
    It does, but we have a system whereby staff can download packages from the Intranet onto their laptops (this saves them bringing it to us everytime they want something installing).

    It would have been handy to be able to package the tutor part of the software but it links with the graphics drivers, so it only works reliably on the same type of computer as what you use to build the package.
    Currently the Tutor has to install the mirror driver part of the product to provide the Show functionality.

    However, I'm unaware that this would cause a problem on machines different from the one the package is built on. Mirror drivers, by design, are driver and display independant.

    What symptoms were you getting?

    Rob

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    When the package is deployed to laptops with different graphics drivers, it cause the screen resolution to change to 640x480 and you are unable to put it back.

    We have to reimage the affected lapotp in order to fix this problem.

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    i had a go at rolling out adobe photoshop elements 4.0 via msi (including the serial key)
    it worked but.....it took the 2.5hours to install on the batch of 7 pcs!
    I had to create regkey for the register adobe, update adobe and the annoying little utility that sits in the system tray eagerly awaiting some to insert a pen drive!

    having to schedule it from home now so it runs over night (thus saving on the leccy!)

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Sims .net

    Testbase for Maths.

    I hear Office 2007 does not have an .MSI whats all that about?

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Office 2007 has msi

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    Re: What software is a pain to package.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy
    Office 2007 has msi
    I dont think you can call the MSI's directly in Office 2007.

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