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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    Sorry for any confusion: I found the idea that someone in your school could leave you with the feeling:
    My time is free to them, so they will say yes...
    quite outrageous. I have some idea of and respect for your input to your school and the wider ICT community from your posts here and elsewhere.

    Did I misinterpret the implications of what you were saying?

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    @Becktonboy: No, I think you got it about right. "Outrageous" is perhaps a little harsh, but you're on the right hymn sheet :-)

    The thing is that if I say "I can do this, but it will take me four hours of solid work", there are some people who would walk away from that conversation having heard "I will have it for you in a few days" without giving much consideration to the other tasks which would have to get shelved in order to do it. Some people have a (partly understandable) narrow view that causes them to focus solely on their own subject or their own bit of the universe and not the "bigger picture". Thankfully these people are not senior to me :-)

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    by the way the tool is firefox in a crappy coding and they have not even hidden the fact or given mozilla any credit (someone could be in trouble) if you ctrl-alt-del then right click on aplications on the tool and the click goto prosses and it take you to ????? have tried it on two machines and its firefox. Not happy as they have not given mozilla any credit for coding and its made a right hash of my test machine which did have firefox on it and it seems to have crupt my plugins as they try to work on this tool??

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    Well that's a trademark violation for a start. If your using it but modifying it your not allowed to call it firefox or refer to Mozilla in any way, shape or form.

    I'm unsure of any license difficulties though as I am not as well read in the MPL as compared to the GPL, BSD or Creative Commons licenses.

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    Hi there,

    Managed to get it working using the VB script, thank you !!

    However, is there an easy way to create a shortcut on the users desktop?

    I am thinking something along the lines of a script doing the following after the VBS file has run:

    copy c:\docume~1\%currentuser%\applic~1\capita\framew.lnk c:\docume~1\%currentuser%\desktop

    however what is the correct code for "%currentuser%" ? .

    Of course I could be barking up the wrong tree!

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    We have had a bit of a pullback and now been told to hold fire on installing it

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    After another school wanted it installed despite me telling them how well it was programmed I set about changing the script.

    Change the fso.Copyfile line to suit your system.


    Const APPLICATION_DATA = &H1a&
    Const DESKTOP = &H10&

    On Error Resume next

    Dim Desktop_path
    Dim Desktop_filename

    Set objShell = CreateObject("Shell.Application")
    Set objFolder = objShell.Namespace(APPLICATION_DATA)
    Set objDesktop = objShell.Namespace(DESKTOP)
    Set objFolderItem = objFolder.Self
    Set objDesktop = objDesktop.Self

    Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FilesystemObject")
    Set oNetwork = CreateObject("Wscript.Network")

    foldername = objFolderItem.Path & "\Capita"

    Desktop_path = objDesktop.Path

    Wscript.echo "This may take a few minutes. You will told when it's finished." & vbCRLF & vbCRLF & " Click OK to start"

    fso.CopyFolder "P:\Primary Framework\Capita", foldername

    Desktop_filename = Desktop_path & "\Planning Tool.exe"


    fso.Copyfile "P:\Primary Framework\Planning Tool.exe", Desktop_filename

    Wscript.echo " Finished" & vbCRLF & vbCRLF & "An icon has been placed on the desktop"

    set oNetwork=nothing
    Set fso = Nothing
    Set objShell = Nothing
    Set objFolder = Nothing
    Set objFolderItem = Nothing

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    Was asked to install this on the network last week, found your vbs very usefull untill I had a bit of a play with it (the software not your vbs) and found the software a load of rubbish. It just does a very long winded way of copy and paste, then at the end you are left with a document that is not much use if you want to edit it easily. Save the document to word! Hah, only creates a web document not a proper word document.
    Managed to so far convince them (though that didn't take alot!) that it was best left alone and just go back to copy paste as they do normally.

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    I got this to work a different way.

    I did a local setup and then copied the Capita\FrameworkApp folder to a network share.

    Then edited \Capita\FrameworkApp\greprefs\all.js

    and entered the proxy settings in the sections below (there are actually about 5 to do...

    pref("network.proxy.type", 1);
    pref("network.proxy.ftp", "xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx");
    pref("network.proxy.ftp_port", yyyy);

    Then created a shortcut in the teachers icon pool pointing to firefox.exe in the shared \Capita\FrameworkApp folder.

    First time they run it it creates a local folder in their profile.

    From what I can see it does not do any more than could be acheived with Word/Internet Explorer and a bit of cut and paste...oh and they have to use a totally new javascript based editor...I am just waiting for the first call to go help someone...

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    Spent a good hour explaining to my head this morning that this program is a waste of my time and a very poorly conceived piece of software. You have to be an administrator to attempt to run it. Also doesnt like you if you cant save things to desktop (which none of our staff can), its totally unconfigurable. This is totally a teachers tool for home use.
    PS has anyone found its uninstaller yet

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    I have managed to get out of instlling this for the time being as I have just ordered new laptops for the staff.

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    i had a phone call from said company and explaned the problems. There answer was this software is not disgnied for a network ??. Then they added that the issues were being looked into and will be sorted by the next version. I did a lot of venting and he told me how sorry he was I think he felt a bit embaresed. In the end he said there was nothing he could do as he was not one of the programme enginers.

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    From what I hear, if I were one of the programmers for that I'd be in hiding right now and expecting it to be featured on WorseThanFailure

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    :!: My Wife aked me to install this software which is the norm and i couldnt belive how poor it was.

    I can get most IT things to work
    but when i struggled i look at the forums only to be dissapointed that my fears had been realised.

    Teachers in small schools in the land will be pulling their hair out wasting time on yet more Planning related rubbish rather than being supplied with the resources they need Free of charge that work.
    8O

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    Re: Primary Framework Interactive Planning Tool

    The recently-released network version of this works a treat.



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