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    Boardworks?

    Had a flier from Boardworks advertising all their content across all subjets that they do for £12k. Was wondering if the stuff is good and whether it is worth the money?

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    Re: Boardworks?

    They're powerpoint presentations with a bit of flash in.....

    Depends wether your staff have the know-how/inclination to make their own.

    We've got them for some subjects, but not others, as some of our staff are pretty good at creating materials

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    Re: Boardworks?

    We've spent thousands on this stuff. I was quite outraged at the poor quality and the strict licensing.
    IMO get a VLE and have the teachers create their own resource so kids can use them at home and in the lesson - its more interective.

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    It fills a need yes cybernerd make your own great if we had time but for now it provides a quick and easy resources certainly don't buy every subject pick ones that need help in creating resources..

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    Re: Boardworks?

    I agree ppt with flash at great expense not really worth it but the teachers love it as they don't have to do anything except run it.

    Ya pays ya money ya gets nay choice.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    I agree with a lot of the comments above. If you are beggining to populate a VLE or to build up resources in all departments this is a quick easy fix. But for value for money I don't feel as the total cost is worth it for the resources you receive.

    I think i'll start another topic as we are beggining to fill our VLE and i'd be interested to know what other schools have bought as "Off The Shelf" resources, as some departments here will have very little to upload in the first instance.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    Using a VLE as a dumping ground for .ppt.doc isn't using it to its full potential.
    There are fantastic ways in which VLE's can be used that can't be done with powerpoints and there are already freely downloadable courses: http://e-subjects.co.uk/

    IMO the boardworks option is a quick fix for lazy teachers, which ultimately hinders VLE adoption.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    We have the Boardworks stuff for all subjects IIRC. The reason that we bought them all was because of the flexibility that the license has, allowing staff to extract info and examples from the powerpoint files to include within their own presentations.

    I believe that the big advantage from a teacher's point of view is that it can help them get up to speed with using an IWB... also the MFL ones have great videos for teaching the kids how the different languages sound.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    But people will not use vle unless there is content there for them to try once they have got head around vle usage then they can create there own.

    Staff won't jump in deap end and make there own straight away I like e-subjects.co.uk.

    But again depends on how your teachers work for example our head of ict hates courses she wants resources she can dip into so board works provides that material.

    So she might use boardworks one day next day use one of the other products we have brought.

    I agree vle should not be dumping ground for ppt files but people need to walk before they can run us techies forget that technology is not second nature to some people.

    Using boardworks or any other product does not make them lazy using it as your only resource does.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    We brought some material from the funds of Specialist School. The stuff is very good to start off with and then staff can go ahead and edit how they want it!!

    In some areas such as maths they quite interesting!

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    Re: Boardworks?

    he reason that we bought them all was because of the flexibility that the license has, allowing staff to extract info and examples from the powerpoint files to include within their own presentations

    The license prohibits their use on the internet, thus precluding use in VLE's.

    COPYRIGHT NOTICE

    Licence Agreement
    The presentations, documents and software included on this disc are © Copyright Boardworks Ltd 2004.


    This licence agreement constitutes a legal contract between Boardworks Ltd. and the school which has purchased this product. The licence agreement is for a single school and is a site licence within that school.

    The licence agreement permits the copying and saving of this material onto any device or medium which is physically located within the licensed school during the period that that device or medium remains within the school. The exception to this is material which Boardworks has licensed from a third party. These items will be clearly marked with a copyright line and may not be copied or saved in any way.

    This licence agreement specifically requires that the product, and all parts of the product, including all presentations, individual slides, all text, all of the Flash movies, all of the software products, and all parts thereof to be permanently deleted from any computer, or any electronic storage medium before the computer or medium is removed from the school.

    The licence agreement specifically prohibits copying, distributing or reproducing any presentations, individual slides, any text, any of the Flash movies, any of the software products, or any parts thereof
    onto any computer or any electronic storage medium outside the licensed school, or
    onto any Internet web site, or
    onto any network which permits downloads or use of this material from outside the licensed school, or
    onto any computer or electronic storage medium which will be removed from the licensed school.
    This prohibition applies to any other use which allows use of the material outside the school premises.


    For the avoidance of doubt, in the event that a teacher moves job from one school to another, this licence specifically prohibits the teacher taking the product, or any part of the product, including any presentations, individual slides, any text, any of the Flash movies, any of the software products, to the new school by whatever means.

    Installing this product, or opening any of the files within this product will be taken to indicate agreement with the terms of this licence agreement. If the terms of this agreement are not accepted, please return the product for a full refund.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    he reason that we bought them all was because of the flexibility that the license has, allowing staff to extract info and examples from the powerpoint files to include within their own presentations

    The license prohibits their use on the internet, thus precluding use in VLE's.
    That's not our intended use... we simply intend to use them to add interactive content to lessons via IWBs.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    @Ric_ This is the essence of my point, there are two strategies here, one to get teachers using IWB's and the other to promote students learning with VLE's - what nobody seems to have figured out is that these can be linked - they don't need to be separate at all.
    I have no idea why companies such as boardworks/Promethean etc haven't figured this out (especially promethean who use moodle for training). Simple solution is to have these embedded flash etc files in webpages that can be used on VLE - importable as SCORM if necessary.

    in the mean time teachers double their workload by creating one set of resources for the IWB (Activestudio/Boardworks etc) and another to let kids access and learn from home.

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    Re: Boardworks?

    @CyberNerd: I don't believe that the Boardworks materials are suitable for use by students learning via a VLE. The Boardworks slides simply highlight points that must be fleshed out by the teacher standing at the front of the class. There are other materials that are more suitable for the independant learning that VLEs can offer.

    I agree that you would ideally have 1 product that fills both gaps but group and individual learning needs are quite different so it would be a difficult thing to do.

    Then again, I could just be cynical and say that it is Boardworks' way of making you buy two products (since I believe that they also make a SCORM resource for VLEs - although I may be wrong).

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    Then again, I could just be cynical and say that it is Boardworks' way of making you buy two products (since I believe that they also make a SCORM resource for VLEs - although I may be wrong).
    Interesting, no mention on their website, I'll give them a call tomorrow.
    It's about time the educational software market caught up with advances in education.
    (be nice if some of them could keep up with advances in software too

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