+ Post New Thread
Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 234567 LastLast
Results 76 to 90 of 95
Educational Software Thread, Microsoft live@edu Vs Google Apps for Education. in Technical; CyberNerd...how many users have you got with Google and Postini? Are you using GAD Sync and Postini Sync? In GADS, ...
  1. #76

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    44
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    CyberNerd...how many users have you got with Google and Postini?
    Are you using GAD Sync and Postini Sync?
    In GADS, we have sAMAccountName for the email, and ticked the box that says "Replace domain names in LDAP email attributes with this domain name"....so it has jbloggs and adds @COMpany.com.

    But Postini Sync does not have this option, and just tries to push the sAMAccountName without the domain to Postini, and fails.
    Know any other way?
    How is yours set up?

    Cheers,
    Jon

  2. #77


    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    8,202
    Thank Post
    442
    Thanked 1,032 Times in 812 Posts
    Rep Power
    339
    Hi Jon,

    Yes we use Google Active Directory Sync.
    We use the AD mail attribute for email, as we already populated this attribute with email addresses (we the attribute for other things such as moodle)

    this is the script we use to populate the email attribute


    Code:
    Set objParent = GetObject("LDAP://ou=year xx,DC=college,DC=internal")
    objparent.Filter = Array("user")
    
    for each objUser in objParent
      'Wscript.Echo "Modifying " & objUser.Get("sAMAccountName")
    	objUser.put "mail", objUser.Get("sAMAccountName") & "@mydomain.com"
    	
    	objuser.Setinfo
     
        
    next
    Wscript.Echo "Done ;)"

  3. #78

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    44
    Thank Post
    5
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    Thanks CyberNerd. I might need to modify that to just update students accounts.
    Also come across Introduction to ADModify.net

    Jon

  4. #79
    zag
    zag is offline
    zag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,736
    Thank Post
    893
    Thanked 414 Times in 348 Posts
    Blog Entries
    12
    Rep Power
    85
    So who's excited about windows 8 allowing you to login with your live ID?

    I'm still trying to get my head around the implications of this.

    Could I have all students bypass active directory?

    Signing in to Windows 8 with a Windows Live ID - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

  5. #80

    AngryTechnician's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    3,730
    Thank Post
    698
    Thanked 1,210 Times in 761 Posts
    Rep Power
    394
    Only a very few settings roam with LiveID sign-in. It's not a replacement for AD unless you have no roaming profiles, no redirection, and are happy with per-machine GPOs only and your Internet connection being destroyed by everyone's files being cloud-stored.

  6. #81

    RabbieBurns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    5,510
    Thank Post
    1,319
    Thanked 469 Times in 306 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6
    Rep Power
    199
    and also the liveID is the entire email address..

    so having to type username@student.mail.your.school.edu.au every time you want to log into a machine will be a PITA

  7. #82
    gshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    2,648
    Thank Post
    164
    Thanked 217 Times in 200 Posts
    Rep Power
    66
    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    and also the liveID is the entire email address..

    so having to type username@student.mail.your.school.edu.au every time you want to log into a machine will be a PITA
    If Microsoft have a bit of sense with this they'll make a GPO that allows you to add a list of commonly used domains to the end of the logon box.

    Thay way you'd only have to type the username and select @school.ac.uk from a dropdown (or as a default option if you don't need @hotmail.co.uk or @live.co.uk in there as well)

  8. #83
    zag
    zag is offline
    zag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,736
    Thank Post
    893
    Thanked 414 Times in 348 Posts
    Blog Entries
    12
    Rep Power
    85
    With our change to live@edu we shortened our domain to user@school-name.co.uk which was a huge improvement over the old long address.

    They already have to type it in for email so im guessing doing it once on login will actually be easier.

    I can see a situation where students just login with their liveID and access outlook.com(for email), skydrive(for documents) without the need for our servers at all

  9. #84

    RabbieBurns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    5,510
    Thank Post
    1,319
    Thanked 469 Times in 306 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6
    Rep Power
    199
    I think it would be better to somehow integrate the liveID into AD or something, so that when they login with their normal domain credentials to AD, it then automatically logs them in to Live. So when they go to skydrive, outlook.com etc, they are already automatically signed in.

    I think this is actually coming with the new office365 to be honest, something to do with ADFS etc and becoming federated between the 2.

    This is seperate from the idea of the concept of shared settings across multiple PCs, which I think is a great idea for home use, but cant see it being useful in a domain environment.

  10. #85


    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    8,202
    Thank Post
    442
    Thanked 1,032 Times in 812 Posts
    Rep Power
    339
    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    I think it would be better to somehow integrate the liveID into AD or something, so that when they login with their normal domain credentials to AD, it then automatically logs them in to Live. So when they go to skydrive, outlook.com etc, they are already automatically signed in.
    This is how the google authentication works. SSO to active directory (without FQDN) then OpenID allows users to sign-in to 3rd party websites using their school account, without giving away their credentials.
    I looked quite thoroughly into Google Vs Live before we implemented google apps - google won in terms of functionality by a clear mile. I'm quite amazed at how many people are blindly following MS though.

  11. #86
    zag
    zag is offline
    zag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,736
    Thank Post
    893
    Thanked 414 Times in 348 Posts
    Blog Entries
    12
    Rep Power
    85
    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    This is how the google authentication works. SSO to active directory (without FQDN) then OpenID allows users to sign-in to 3rd party websites using their school account, without giving away their credentials.
    I looked quite thoroughly into Google Vs Live before we implemented google apps - google won in terms of functionality by a clear mile. I'm quite amazed at how many people are blindly following MS though.
    Yes we assumed they would get single sign on working easily

    Hopefully windows 8 will have that but lets see.

  12. #87
    enjay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Reading, Berkshire, UK
    Posts
    4,485
    Thank Post
    282
    Thanked 196 Times in 167 Posts
    Rep Power
    75
    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    I can see a situation where students just login with their liveID and access outlook.com(for email), skydrive(for documents) without the need for our servers at all
    That just cover documents and local applications though, not the myriad of server-based applications we all have.

  13. #88
    zag
    zag is offline
    zag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,736
    Thank Post
    893
    Thanked 414 Times in 348 Posts
    Blog Entries
    12
    Rep Power
    85
    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    That just cover documents and local applications though, not the myriad of server-based applications we all have.
    The vast majority of ours are web based now. Sharepoint is the obvious local one at the moment, Sims is another(more for teachers). Our library system which is web based as are all our ICT support and room booking systems are web based and have been for a while. I'm trying to think of anything I have missed.

    Basically I'm loving the cloud future but its a total step change for us network admins!!

  14. #89

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Jus North of London, close but not too close
    Posts
    717
    Thank Post
    170
    Thanked 53 Times in 51 Posts
    Rep Power
    34
    Live@EDU is very highly configurable with powershell and as mentioned it is possible to do email tracking etc and even found it possible to get a snapshot of a users email account at a certan date/time.

    I've not had any experience of google mail and how to configure it suitable for use in a school environment, control, restrictions etc.

  15. #90
    enjay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Reading, Berkshire, UK
    Posts
    4,485
    Thank Post
    282
    Thanked 196 Times in 167 Posts
    Rep Power
    75
    Configuration of users is fairly straightforward, and from what I've seen of PowerShell, a lot easier. The biggest downside I've found in Google Mail is that I have no view into people's mailboxes (other than a slight cludge which involves changing their password, logging in and then waiting for the AD Synchronisation to reset their password again).

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 234567 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. [ASP.net] Microsoft launch web platform with easy to install 'Apps'
    By somabc in forum Web Development
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 18th November 2009, 12:15 PM
  2. Replies: 12
    Last Post: 10th October 2008, 06:32 AM
  3. Education microsoft training
    By Andi in forum Courses and Training
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 4th April 2008, 09:51 AM
  4. Education Briefings From Microsoft
    By russdev in forum Windows
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 1st November 2007, 12:55 PM
  5. Microsoft Volume Activation 2.0 for education
    By thom in forum Windows Vista
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 8th February 2007, 09:40 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •