Anyone seen where they're getting the figure of $6/user/year from?
We have single sign on onto our moodle and google, so we just use moodle to 'login as' another student and then access their mailbox from there. We hardly ever need to do it though because the postini filtering is actually rather good.
One of our schools has SSO between Live@Edu and Moodle ... nice and simple for staff and students.
CyberNerd, or anyone else that can help...
I'm still looking into migrating to Google with SSO. I have a query - your school domain - how is it set up?
Right now, for teachers we have, eg:
We're looking for students at having
So that we can have different rules for different domains (switch off chat, etc), however I've read that postini won't work like this and syncing would have to be done separately. Curious to what you've got set up or have other ideas?
Thanks for your time and help,
- you have to create the account in Moodle
- you have to create the account in Live
- you set the Auth Method in Moodle to LiveID and put the Live@Edu email address in the Moodle MSN ID field
- you click a login link on your Moodle site http://www.moodlesite.com/auth/liveid/login.php
- you sign in with your Live account
- you sometimes get the annoying Consent box come up which you have to click allow
- it then looks for an account in Moodle with matching MSN ID
- if it finds it you get logged into Moodle and email displays in the Live@Edu block
The problems with this are...
- you can't use LDAP to sign in anymore so you'll need to change the auth field for all users using the plugin
- you rely on the delegated authentication working, it's gone crazy once or twice when MS were doing updates and brought bugs into the system e.g. Consent box keeps popping up, login flow doesn't work if co-branding is enabled (not sure if this has been fixed but don't dare to try it tbh)
- you have to create the Moodle accounts manually whereas the LDAP plugin auto creates suitable accounts if the authentication process completes successfully
- MS don't support the plugin at all and they barely reply on the educationlabs site now I've been helping a few people out on there recently as we've found most of the common problems by now!
- no release for Moodle 2.0 as it stands or updates for the new Office 365 features
If you want a demo login on our site PM me to see it in action... we use it for all our students and it works OK, the email and file storage is nice but it's frustrating as the plugin could be so much better. The odd thing is that a lot of people can't see why I think the integration is such a killer feature which is a shame really.
@cybernerd - do you find the kids abusing the chat service much or not? We opted not to enable it at first, although will trial it with some Sixth Formers during exam leave (e.g. a teacher will agree to be on chat for an hour to answer any questions).
I like the idea of the two Labs you've added - at present, it is only really used between staff but once people start mailing students, I'll recommend they enable those. We initially listed our staff as Mr Bloggs, but this got confusing with threaded conversations as they all appeared to be between "Me, Mr, Mr, Me, Mr" so we changed to "Fred Bloggs (staff)". The students initially had some confusion over Miss Smith and Mrs Smith, but they seem to have got over that now.
I think this will largely depend upon the school, and the disciplinary systems in place. It works well for us and I think it is important to use similar systems that students are used to using at home (social networking,chat,sms) in their education, otherwise school ICT systems become very distant for the students. It also goes a long way to educate students about netiquette
Definitely agree with all that. It is also important to properly educate staff and parents in what chat is, what it does and what it isn't - whenever you say "chat" some people will hear the words "cyber bullying" or "paedophiles".
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