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    Thank you both, but I wasn't talking about "personal", simply "non-commercial".

    And if YouTube really does say personal, non-commercial (not checked it) then there are lots of Naughty Companies out there!

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    Well this is what rm say about it all:

    Why we do not have an RM Package Blueprint for Spotify


    Why we do not have an RM Package Blueprint for Spotify
    Published Date : 20 Oct 2010 Content Ref: NWS1762489



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    Summary Important information regarding licence restrictions for the music streaming software Spotify.


    What is Spotify?

    SpotifyŽ is a proprietary peer-to-peer music streaming service and application software. It allows instant listening to specific tracks or albums with virtually no buffering delay. Music can also be imported from either iTunes or directly from the local files.

    Playing music in schools

    Many schools are using music to enhance the different aspects of teaching and learning, and a few have requested use of websites such as Spotify to download copyrighted music for use in class.

    It is generally ok to play any music in the school, if it is part of the curriculum (see Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 section 34). However, if it is non-curricular, for example background music played by the teacher in a lesson, a school radio station or an assembly/event where parents are present, then you need to be licensed by both PRS and PPL. PRS and PPL licensing are two independent schemes that represent the interests of different rights holders for the use of recorded and live music in public performances. If the recorded music is audible in a public space at your institution, you would need both. The licence is usually purchased by the local authority for the schools.

    Spotify Restrictions

    Spotify cannot be used for public performances even if a normal public performance licence has been paid for. Playing music through speakers, using Spotify, to a classroom will constitute as a public performance.
    Spotify passwords should not be shared.
    The school may install Spotify on its computers. A student or a staff member may create an account as a private individual and login to that account from anywhere. However, the school should not create accounts for the students or staff members.
    For more information, please refer to the End User Licence Agreement for Spotify at the link below:
    Terms and Conditions of Use - Spotify

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Thank you both, but I wasn't talking about "personal", simply "non-commercial".
    Uh?? So "personal non-commercial" doesn't include "personal"?

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    You should ask spotify I bet they would want the good publicity of allowing it in schools but it really depends on on the licence terms they sign with the record company.

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    Oh for pity's sake people! Yes of course "personal non-commercial" includes personal, but "non-commercial" (as some products are licensed) doesn't. If it says personal it means personal; if it says non-commercial, it means non-commercial; if it says both, it means both. Seriously, how is this so difficult to understand?!

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    I would second what somabc says - speak to the company in question. I've contacted companies in the past and agreed specific terms of use with them, so it is always worth asking.

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    Both services discussed in this thread use the words "personal non-commercial". It is not helpful to anybody reading this thread to muddy the very clear license terms by discussing how schools are non-commercial. Schools who do not make the distinction are in danger of breaking the law*.



    * not legal advice
    Last edited by powdarrmonkey; 10th March 2011 at 03:42 PM.

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    Indeed. I was speaking more generally about the term "non-commercial" not with reference to Spotify. Spotify says "personal non-commercial", the meaning of which is very clear.

    I would still encourage those who want it to contact Spotify and ask for an educational licence, mind you - if you don't ask, you don't get... But until the say "yes", it is a "no".

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    Try out Grooveshark.

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    If you read their T&Cs, every streaming music service is the same.

    GrooveShark: http://grooveshark.com/terms
    Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/legal/terms
    Napster: http://sms.gb.napster.com/info/terms.html
    We7: http://www.we7.com/#/legal/
    Last edited by Arthur; 21st March 2011 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdarrmonkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Niklah View Post
    Try out Grooveshark.
    As has been pointed out earlier grooveshark is the same.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niklah View Post
    Try out Grooveshark.
    I just died a little inside.

    Please read the thread in its entirety before satisfying the urge to post.

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    Hey I might try out Grooveshark!


    (I am being ironic)

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    This is what we recieved from LEA

    Audit Services have provided the following advice regarding Spotify:

    “We are aware that a number of schools allow Spotify (the music streaming service) to be installed and used on school computers, which includes laptops that have been issued to staff. Please note that the Spotify software licensing conditions do not allow it to be installed or used on school computers.

    The instructions on the Spotify website are as follows:

    Can I use Spotify to play music in my bar, restaurant, store, school etc?
    No, the Terms & Conditions that you agree to when registering for Spotify states that Spotify is for personal, non-commercial use.

    Please be aware that if schools are found to be in breach of software licensing conditions they are at risk of financial penalties from the software vendor.”

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    Dredging this one, but it has reared its head again at my new school. I know that the licence says "personal, non-commercial" and that support say it can't be used in schools, BUT... the same also applies to DVDs of films/TV shows/etc, which as we know are permitted if used as part of the curriculum (i.e. show a film for Media Studies but not wet lunchtimes). Surely the same would apply to Spotify...

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