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    Re: Real Player

    Agreed Tony. I have been looking into this even more since my last comments and some links provided in earlier responses led me to the relevant licensing page where I could fill out the distribution form. I will move all the machines we had on Enterprise to the Basic edition this week to make sure we are in compliance with our newly agreed terms.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Re: Real Player

    Nice work Dook

    I thought Real had made there terms unimplementable on a educational network. The say its "free" but being unable to redistro is a BIG limitation. Looks like the only real way to implement this is by buying enterprise and @ £2 a seat its rather expensive for a codec
    Real need to sort it out, this should be free for schools in the redist sense. I just feel sorry for you people out there that have possibly broken the terms and have to explain to staff why you are removing it. Good luck

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    Re: Real Player

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour
    Nice work Dook

    I thought Real had made there terms unimplementable on a educational network. The say its "free" but being unable to redistro is a BIG limitation. Looks like the only real way to implement this is by buying enterprise and @ £2 a seat its rather expensive for a codec
    Real need to sort it out, this should be free for schools in the redist sense. I just feel sorry for you people out there that have possibly broken the terms and have to explain to staff why you are removing it. Good luck
    Well- it is "free" to distribute if you have filled out the distribution form on the Real Networks web site. That's what I just did over the weekend and more than covered us for a projected install-base so that we have the papers from Real to say that I told them I would be doing it...

    The Enterprise edition is better- but like you say at £2 (from) a pop it's steep. Then again, you get all the central management features you might need to make your job easier, so from that perspective it isn't all that bad. All I will have to do this week is move 30 machines away from this version to our licensed free version. Not so bad. What are technicians for anyway? ;-)

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    Re: Real Player

    Had a good chat with David earlier today.

    His advice is for all schools, no matter what you decide to do with whatever version, is to fill in the online form so Real Player Basic can be used and distributed with no worries.

    As for Real Player Enterprise ... yes ... the phrase "distribute" also includes sticking the software on a machine as part of a master image. RN do not follow up breaches of this ... however FAST do. Although a certain amount of the licencing is based on trust between RN and schools, it should not be taken for granted.

    Yes, £2 per seat is expensive for a media player if you only look at it as a media player ... but it is not just a media player ... don't forget the server, the video library side of things, RealProducer and the enterprise manger. It starts looking reasonable at that point.

    For those who are interested in the RP Enterprise route there is also training available. Real University is held over 2 days at UCL at a cost of £250 per day (per person). This covers video encoding, setup and config of the server and creation of materials for use. I'll link further details when I have them.

    RM also do a 1 day session based more around the video creation side of things (but still covers basic of setup and config). Again ... details to follow.

    This is pretty much the definitive answeron things for the moment. The £2 per seat per year is the educational price and has been aggressively reduced to make it available for as many people as possible. The Perpetual licence (with 1 year Silver upgrade and support) is £5 per seat.

    There you have it folks.

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    Re: Real Player

    OK... so where is the form hidden? They certainly don't make it easy to find!

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    Re: Real Player

    The thing we thought that would be nice about real was the DVD playback function. But enterprise dont have that, only plus does I think. £2 a license for DVD playback would be good.
    BTW FAST=EVIL
    as I have mentioned before:
    http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/win...9270906,00.htm

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    Re: Real Player

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    OK... so where is the form hidden? They certainly don't make it easy to find!
    Already mentioned earlier in the thread.

    Real Player Basic Distribution Form

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    Re: Real Player

    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    OK... so where is the form hidden? They certainly don't make it easy to find!
    Already mentioned earlier in the thread.

    Real Player Basic Distribution Form
    ops:

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    Re: Real Player

    And here is the further info I promised
    Hi Tony,

    Very good to talk with you and I hope our explanation makes sense for you and the members of EduGeek.

    For training, we hold Real University which is run throughout the year where we offer a 2 day course focused on content creation and Helix Server administration. Attend one or both days depending upon your skill set. They are taught by us using a combination of practical hands-on with theory based upon real life experiences from the field.

    To view the course agenda and to book, please see the following URL:

    http://europe.real.com/training/university/

    We also hold a Video Library Server course at Research Machines, this is a one day only course and is a fast-start for learning the fundamentals of digitising video and creating your own Video Library Server. We are about to schedule the next series with RM, which will be held in the Autumn period. I will let you know when the URL and dates are finalised.

    Please feel free to drop me a line or call if you have further questions about RealNetworks solutions.

    Best regards,



    David Smith
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    Re: Real Player

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    Re: Real Player

    I installed it because our PSHCE teachers wanted the kids to watch Newsround. The BBC site has a download which states FREE to all their viewers. I've sent them an email asking for clarification.

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    Re: Real Player

    We want to watch all the BBC clips that they're made available for East Riding of Yorkshire schools - pretty much al Real files.

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    Re: Real Player

    Hmmmm Real what ? Oh, that BLOATWARE software !!
    I like many others install the real alternative:

    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...lternative.htm

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    Re: Real Player

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    Hmmmm Real what ? Oh, that BLOATWARE software !!
    I like many others install the real alternative:

    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...lternative.htm
    I do at home (on my XP partition anyway - I'm a Mac man), but I need to deploy it over a server 2003/XP network

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