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    Document Server

    Yes I know this has been discussed before, but it's been a while, but the issue has just surfaced here. We are having a new head in January and in one of the recent meetings he's been attending he described the sharepoint system at his school. So he's keen to introduce it here.

    I don't particularly care for sharepoint myself, but I'm willing to hear what you lot think about it.

    Also another possibility is the Sims Document server, unless I'm misunderstood what it does.

    I'm installing knowledgetree as we type.

    Any other notable systems?

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    We do use sharepoint here. or MOSS 2007 more specifically. as our Intranet

    I like the fact that it ties in with AD, therefore its easy to setup permissions and groups. or change how the pages look to groups of users.

    On document Management its definitely better than 2003. the check-in and out functions work much better.

    I don't like the fact that I haven't worked out how to do an automated backup

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-strider View Post
    I don't like the fact that I haven't worked out how to do an automated backup
    write a batch file using the stsadm tool.

    see below Backup: Stsadm operation (Office SharePoint Server)

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    Document server is built into SIMS .net. It saves all the docs (letters) people have created about students and stores them.

    SLG2 - Sims Learning Gateway 2, is an addon to Sharepoint. Also comes with AD provision, it creates windows logons from the details of students, staff and parents from the SIMS database. It allows them to view student details remotely. It's pretty much got most most features teachers need (anything .7 (.NET) is on there)

    SLG2 is £££. Capita sent out a letter about a government funding grant that can be used to get this.
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    Also comes with AD provision, it creates windows logons from the details of students, staff and parents from the SIMS database. It allows them to view student details remotely.
    we already have a vbs script that does this.
    probably a moodle module could allow parents to view student details remotely, if you dare talk to the SQL directly.
    Question: do parents need cals to do this in sharepoint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    probably a moodle module could allow parents to view student details remotely, if you dare talk to the SQL directly.
    You can look at one of Capita's Partners.

    OR, going down the open source route. Create report, schedule it to run daily (or such), then create a import script.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    SLG2 is £££. Capita sent out a letter about a government funding grant that can be used to get this.
    Did they? i never got one...

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    It was addressed to the head teacher.

    It meantion the Harnessing Technology Grants, if I remember correctly, the LEA has upto 25% to spend of upgrading there "core" network. The rest is up to the school to decide what they spend it one, unless it was agreed at the school forum that the LEA can spend more.

    There is a copy on SupportNet, resource 14630.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    It was addressed to the head teacher.

    It meantion the Harnessing Technology Grants, if I remember correctly, the LEA has upto 25% to spend of upgrading there "core" network. The rest is up to the school to decide what they spend it one, unless it was agreed at the school forum that the LEA can spend more.

    There is a copy on SupportNet, resource 14630.
    A nice piece of marketing, but schools and LA's get the Harnessing Technology Grant anyway and it is not ring fenced. There is no 'extra' money to spend on capita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    A nice piece of marketing, but schools and LA's get the Harnessing Technology Grant anyway and it is not ring fenced. There is no 'extra' money to spend on capita.
    You should be part of the county wide plan for SLG, being in East Sussex LEA though...?

    Helenswood's an early adopter if you wanted to have a butchers

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    we already have a vbs script that does this.
    probably a moodle module could allow parents to view student details remotely, if you dare talk to the SQL directly.
    Question: do parents need cals to do this in sharepoint?
    Yes, yes they do.

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    I think your find the Harnessing Technology Grants states as one of the main purposes is to provide enchanced communications between schools and parents... which is what SLG is aimed at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    I think your find the Harnessing Technology Grants states as one of the main purposes is to provide enchanced communications between schools and parents... which is what SLG is aimed at.
    What can the Harnessing Technology Grant be used for?

    The Harnessing Technology Grant is capital funding so can be used for any ICT-related capital purpose (eg purchases of ICT infrastructure and equipment).
    Becta Local authorities - Funding - Harnessing Technology Grant - Frequently asked questions about the Harnessing Technology Grant

    You should be part of the county wide plan for SLG, being in East Sussex LEA though...?
    yes, we got it. I was just being cynical about capitas marketing

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    Blah.... read the DCSF.

    Anyway, it's a way Capita are selling it. If you hate Capita, get over it, your SIMS manager (or such) will find it, then prob say "we can get this on that money!" and it'll just annoy you. I think it's good, love when everything fits together, yes, I would love a more open source solution, but it's not gonna happen. Be happy SIMS is more SSO and should mean you won't have to create user accounts anymore, not even for those few that just turn up mid year. Also like the fact you can create groups, form, class etc.

    Any, love it, hate it. It ain't going anywhere.

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