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    Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    Hello everyone,

    We have had office 2003 here for about a year now but there is one problem I cannot seem to solve. No matter how fast the machine is or what the office setting are the clip art gallery and organiser are sooooooo slow it takes about 5 mins of what looks like a frozen program for it to load.

    I have Office fully installed (except for the document image writing tools) on the local HDD but I cannot seem to find any reason for this.

    Does anyone experience this or has solved it?

    Gaz

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    You're not alone, we have that same problem here. Sometimes clipart works perfectly, sometimes it takes an age.

    It seems that since I rebuilt the user accounts and gave the kids non-mandatory profiles, we havn't seen the problem reoccur (or maybe people just stopped reporting it ^^; ), but I've not properly tested it yet, and probably won't until I've reimaged to a standard setup in the summer.

    For the time being we seem to have settled on "Don't use clipart", which I'll admit isn't an optimal solution, but it works for now and no-one seems to mind too much.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    You gave you kids non-man profiles :-O. What are the main advantages and disadvantage of that

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    Mandatory profiles are an NT 4.0 era method. AD Provides just as good configuration options. I've never used them and never had any problems. But the whole profile debate is one way to spark off an argument here. I suspect many have them as a legacy thing and have never got around to dropping them. Anyway, I digress....

    I just setup a default user profile (non-mandatory) and let AD do the rest.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    You can use mandatory profiles if you want. There's nothing stopping you doing so. It works fine under XP (Its how I do things if I'm using a Samba domain controller).

    Using all the bells and whistles in AD gives you more flexibility of course. It just depends if you need that flexibility or not.

    There's pros and cons to each approach. I don't think you can catagorgically state one is better than the other. It depends on the situation.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    Our Office Clipart was slow because it tries to search the internet.

    I installed the Office ADM template and disabled the Internet Search function for the students.

    I then copied the XP Media Content CD onto a server and ran a file which tells office to look at that for clipart, not for locally installed clip art.

    Seems to work ok, let me know if you want any more details.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BKGarry
    You gave you kids non-man profiles :-O. What are the main advantages and disadvantage of that
    They're fully locked down in AD so they still can't do anything they're not supposed to. Personally I feel non-man is a more flexible and future-proof approach, but that's really just a matter of personal preference.

    @MrDylan: I'll have to give that a try at some point, I've been meaning to have a look through the office ADM templates, this is as good a reason as any ^^

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    I then copied the XP Media Content CD onto a server and ran a file which tells office to look at that for clipart, not for locally installed clip art.
    @MrDylan Looking to do the same at a school which had office setup without clipart. Whats the file you used?

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    All you have to do is run this line on the workstations.

    msiexec.exe /i \\SERVERNAME\OfficeClipArt\CAG.MSI ADDSOURCE=ALL /qb

    The only problem I had was that I needed to run it when I was logged in, pupils didn't have the permissions.

    The important bits of that line are the location (obviously) and the ADDSOURCE bit. That just makes it access the clipart from that location, if you changed it to ADDLOCAL I believe it will copy the clipart to the local machine.

    Info found here : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897754/EN-US/

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    You should be able to deploy that using AD with a transform im guessing, saves the hassle of running it manually

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    Or just alter the MSI with orca.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    I didn't know how to get it to work through deployment, was easy enough just having it run when i logged in and going round a room.

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    Cheers MrDylan works a treat

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    thankyou, glad I've helped someone! I've had quite a productive day, very strange.

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    Re: Microsoft Office 2003 Clipart Really SLOW!!!

    The freezing is a big thing when searching for Clips Online via Office, I have posters around and staff have been trained to go to clip art, then tell it that you don't want it to search in Web Collections, just the other two and then no more crashes and freezing. If you want Clips online, use the big button at the bottom that says Clips Online

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