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    Alternative to dartfish

    Hi,

    The PE department have asked for dartfish but management don't like how expensive it is. Does anyone know of any cheaper or free software that would give similar functions.

    They really just want to be able to slow video down, take snapshots, break down a scene into multiple snapshots and be able to annotate the video/snapshots.

    I don't think they need the editing to be live. It's more likely that they will go back to the classroom to look at it.


    Thanks in advance

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    Well I can't give you another solution for this, but I can say that our staff have been using dartfish this year, and it seems to do the job well.. (They use if for analysing their golf swing).

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    Dartfish is very good but like you mentioned is Expensive.

    i also know of Webbsoft but not sure of the costs for that.

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    Alternative to dartfish

    Take a look at cSwing. Less than £100 a seat and it does everything Dartfish does. It doesn't have the enormous bank of content with it but some of that is downloadable free anyway (from erm... Dartfish) and a county can soon build its own bank of resources.

    I got it from Proshot Solutions. Give 'em a call.

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    Hi,

    Please have a look at Kinovea, it's an open source solution that may suits your needs.
    It doesn't have an equivalent for all the Dartfish functions (yet) but the 0.7.2 version that was released just a few days ago does Key Images comments and drawings, saving selection back to video, batch snapshots, etc.

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    It's free to use and copy.
    You're welcome to give feedback and suggestions.
    (Disclaimer: I'm the author of Kinovea)
    Last edited by joan; 17th July 2008 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joan View Post
    Hi,

    Please have a look at Kinovea, it's an open source solution that may suits your needs.
    It doesn't have an equivalent for all the Dartfish functions (yet) but the 0.7.2 version that was released just a few days ago does Key Images comments and drawings, saving selection back to video, batch snapshots, etc.

    screenshot

    It's free to use and copy.
    You're welcome to give feedback and suggestions.
    (Disclaimer: I'm the author of Kinovea)
    Thanks

    I'll keep an eye on this and its development.

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    Hello,Joan

    Thanks very much for your excellet work. I also want to have a try of Kinovea but the homepage could not be accessed.
    Could you show me a way about how to get the software?

    Thanks in advance.

    Smith

    2009/8/10

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    Looks good. Great work... will defo be keeping an eye on this project :-)

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    Will be playing with this as we have had Kandle and it has just ended up as too tricky to install due to the DRM they have implemented. This looks fairly clean and simple to use but powerful enough for the PE staff!

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    Where can I get Kinovea

    Hello, Everyone

    I need a help. Where can I get the Kinovea? The web site of this project Kinovea - Video Analysis Software for Sports can not be accessed!

    Could I ask you a favour to send the application and source to my me via email if some one has it? My email is laizicaoyuan@163.com.

    Thanks in advance.

    Smith

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    go to Kinovea - Video Analysis Software for Sports and if you can not download i will email it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smadison View Post
    go to Kinovea - Video Analysis Software for Sports and if you can not download i will email it to you.
    Hello, sir

    I can not open the url and please download and email it to me.

    Thanks very much for your kindness.

    Smith

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    Hi,
    I also noticed that the website cannot be accessed from China, it's pretty inconvenient. Unfortunately there not much I can do.

    I will send you the latest stable release (0.7.10).
    Just so you know, there is also an experimental version (0.8.1) with new features (and new bugs) if you aren't afraid

    Edit: Wait a minute, it's 9MB, I can't send this through mail… Hmm, I will try to mirror it somewhere else.
    Last edited by joan; 13th August 2009 at 03:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joan View Post
    Hi,
    I also noticed that the website cannot be accessed from China, it's pretty inconvenient. Unfortunately there not much I can do.

    I will send you the latest stable release (0.7.10).
    Just so you know, there is also an experimental version (0.8.1) with new features (and new bugs) if you aren't afraid

    Edit: Wait a minute, it's 9MB, I can't send this through mail… Hmm, I will try to mirror it somewhere else.

    Hello

    Thanks very much for your reply.

    It is great if you mirror it somewhere else so I can follow the new release and enjoy the new features added.

    By the way I would like to ask a new feature of automatic trajectory follow which can automatically detect the successive positions of the trajectory after the initial position mark in a video file.

    Smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith View Post
    By the way I would like to ask a new feature of automatic trajectory follow which can automatically detect the successive positions of the trajectory after the initial position mark in a video file.
    There is a semi-automated tracking function.
    You first add a drawing of type "cross", then right-click it and choose "Track Trajectory" in the contextual menu.
    Then, when you move forward in the video, it will try its best to macth the object and will draw the trajectory.

    If you aren't satisfied with what it came up with, you can adjust it manually at any time. (The tracking is somewhat easily lost, as the tracked object passes behind something or change shape, etc.)

    I you can reach blip.tv, there is a quick demo of it at the end of this video.

    Edit:
    Ok, a range of french IP from the web host were blacklisted by the chinese Great Firewall.
    I changed the geolocalisation of the site to england, and it should be reachable from China within the next few days
    Last edited by joan; 14th August 2009 at 09:40 AM. Reason: Adding note about dns

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