jamesmay (23rd March 2010)
And MS really do need to rethink their licensing for Office in a TS (or similar) environment. It's just a pain in the backside
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jamesmay (23rd March 2010)
External Connector License
Optional additional license for external users that enables access to your servers that are
running Windows Server 2008.
Allows access to the server that is running Windows Server, by an unlimited number of external
users. For example, allows access for a person who is not an employee or similar personnel of
the company or its affiliates.
Licensed per server, regardless of the number of running instances of Windows Server 2008.
With this license, customers do not need to buy individual Windows Server CALs for each
Note: The External Connector license cannot be used for commercial hosting services.
Everyone should read this: https://partner.microsoft.com/global/40017358
It's very useful
The way Ramesys/Pugh both suggested to license was to get an Exchange CAL for every PC we have and then a student connector for every student. At around £1.20ish for a student connector license it wasn't as expensive as I first imagined.
Last edited by Soulfish; 7th April 2009 at 11:29 PM.
FYI the large bold text is just to catch anyone reading the thread in the future, that document is really helpful - not trying to shout or make any point aimed in your direction :P
Microsoft Select Plus Overview). But to do that you need to buy a lot of software every year or have a schools agreement!
MS licensing (actually most licensing) is just one giant headache
AFAIK the Exchange Device CALs cover members of staff for Work@Home Rights.
Re the Exchange External Connector, I was quoted in the region of £5k. For 1700 student EX CALs it was aound £2k IIRC
Re Office on a TS, the idea I got from Ramesys and Misco that if Office was covered by software assurance (school agreement), all staff members had Work@Home Rights, but as Office can only be licensed per device, this right would in theory have to be locked to a single external device.
How come students can access with an External Connector but staff need individual CALs? We were told by RM to buy an External Connector when we set up EasyLink, but should we also have bought CALs for our staff? If so, how are we possibly supposed to know how many to get? I don't know how many PCs each teacher has, or how many of them also access it from other locations (friends', relatives', public libraries, Internet cafes, etc). What about staff members with children in the school? Does their PC need a CAL or not?
RM.com Shop: RM EasyLink 2
As I understand it you'd buy as many Windows user CALs for employees as will need remote access, so you're licensing the number of people, not the number of devices they will use to access your servers.
The type of connection that EasyLink provides may just require the single external connector licence and RM do tend to run their products via MS to make sure they are properly licenced so I would think that RM are correct in this.
One of the problems is that the different external connectors for different apps / services seem to be applied slightly differently.
I'll be honest and say that I have almost given up on clarifying each and every type of licence as MS are reviewing it at the moment, there is guidance in place already (see DMcCoy's post above) and if you are in doubt then you should refer your supplier to the above MS webpage and ask for them to clarify their position based on the MS web page. Get that clarification in writing (by letter or email) and then take what is offered to you by your supplier. If they are supplying it wrongly and they have sworn blind that it is correct and you have dropped a line to MS Edu Licensing then leave it at that. Most of the large Edu suppliers of MS licences will have it generally correct but some areas are still grey (eg Office on a terminal server) in spite of clear guidance from MS (pay per device!)
I have had a similar issue in the past where RM have given incorrect advice about external Exchange access licensing, only when I presented them with Microsoft's response did they concede that the standard MS licence stood.
Those who keep an eye on Ray Flemming's education blog will see a post next week about the use of external connectors.
As you may or may not know, I've been trying to find out about the licesing of parents and govenors for Sharepoint.
Yesterday the official line was that for parents and governors etc to connect to your Sharepoint server (for example) you need an external connector license (or internet version of the software). This is around £5K!
As from now (and I have this from the horses mouth) you no longer need this.
I quote from his email:
I attach the file he sent that confirms this.Here’s the official line – no licences needed for parents as long as their kids are licensed (which they will be). I will add this to the blog this week
Enjoy your new found wealth.
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The letter states that qualifiying customers include those with School Agreements.
I'll see if I can get clarification though.
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