Educational Software Thread, The Licensing FAQ in Technical; Majority of printers will not be authenticating against the domain, merely receiving data over the network as a blind device ...
18th December 2008, 10:44 AM #91
Majority of printers will not be authenticating against the domain, merely receiving data over the network as a blind device (not caring where the information comes from, who it comes from or what application sends it).
The authentication takes place between the clent machine and the server with the share for the printer, for which you have already purchased a CAL.
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apoth0r (27th January 2009)
27th January 2009, 02:15 PM #92
I am trying to get to the bottom of and understand M$ Licensing - particularly the Academic Select Agreement. I've just re-read through this thread and couldn't see answers to the following questions. I think this is better placed here than in a new thread.
How long does a select agreement last for? and, more importantly, if it expires (which I'm sure it does) what happens to the licenses bought under the agreement? Do they also expire? Does this mean we need to rebuy our licenses when the agreement is up for renewal, or do the old licenses transfer to a new agreement? What if an agreement lapsed over a year ago? Would new licenses need to be bought with the new agreement?
I'm currently trying to audit our licenses to establish what we need to do as a school to remain legal, and prepare for Windows 7, Server 2008 and perhaps the next Office.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can uncloud my merky thinking!
27th January 2009, 02:22 PM #93
By coincidence I'm going through the exact same process. I thought I was covered but now I'm not sure
Answers in plain English please
27th January 2009, 02:23 PM #94
This is a licensing thread, you must be new here.
Answers in plain English please
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27th January 2009, 02:25 PM #95
Originally Posted by CyberNerd
27th January 2009, 02:48 PM #96
Okay, sifting through the interweb I think I may be coming up with answers to my own questions
I think the select agreement basically allows you to purchase the licenses at a given price. Once you've bought the licenses they are yours forever. When the agreement lapses (typically two years) you lose the right to purchase new licenses at that price but you do not lose any licenses you have already bought.
The schools agreement on the other hand appears to be a subscription, so you would lose access to the software if the agreement ends.
27th January 2009, 03:03 PM #97
@tmcd35 - I agree with your first paragraph, i.e. licences bought under Select are yours for-keeps, but do not agree with the second paragraph about Schools Licences. All you lose when your Schools Agreement expires is the right to version upgrades, what you already have is yours (I think!).
27th January 2009, 03:08 PM #98
No, for schools agreement you would have to buy out the agreement or stop using the licenses.
Originally Posted by NickJones
23rd March 2009, 04:15 PM #99
I've trawled through this thread for a definitive answer to my license query but I can't find one and I'm getting no joy from our MS School Agreement supplier. Sorry for the essay but I need to be quite specific.
Here's what we want to do:
We want to setup a SharePoint server internally. We will need access to this server's output from within school for students and staff and from outside of school for students, staff, parents and governors etc. The intention is to use it for VLE/Intranet purposes and to report attendance and assessment details to parents etc.
Here's what I'm confused about:
Our MS School Agreement states that we have 500 or so Office SharePoint CALs included so I assume we're covered for in school use, (but we do not have the server software itself as yet). This document (from MS) states (implies?) that if a product requires an external connector license schools get it free.
Our supplier insists that we need to spend either £4.25 per student for access (1,100 of them) or nearly £5,000 for the 'Internet' version.
Does Sharepoint come under the type of software that requires an external connector or is that only Exchange?
Any pointers welcome (or contacts at MS that could clarify).
23rd March 2009, 06:16 PM #100
To me that document says you are not covered other than for the following people...
Students & staff, plus:
• Prospective students
• Alumni (student and faculty/ staff)
• Student and faculty/staff of collaborating academic institutions or government institutions.
..which leaves your parents and governors out in the cold.
These are the people who should really know their stuff on UK Educational licensing of MS software:
Education Large Account Resellers - Education - Microsoft UK
1st April 2009, 07:02 PM #101
Originally Posted by LicenceGuru
You got it about right. We will have a separate server and we need external access for parents etc. It seems like a lot of money to pay but I guess that we could potentially have 2,000 odd parents accessing the server (however in reality it'll be about 10 ).
1st April 2009, 07:19 PM #102
I don't believe that it has to be public now, you can apply both licenses (MOSS 2007 server and for internet sites) to a single server. Microsoft licensing said that this was changed but has not yet been updated on the FAQ pages on the site.
7th April 2009, 09:13 PM #103
7th April 2009, 09:59 PM #104
Students will still need the relevant CALs to access Microsoft servers and services, although you may be able to use external connectors instead (Exchange/Windows server) as they are not employees of the organisation. This is where licensing things like SQL as per processor is useful.
Originally Posted by samba_man
TS is simply a multiplexing device and you still need licenses for all authenticated users, even if they are accessing services via a single/fewer devices.
And yes, licensing the planet is the only absolute way to license Microsoft office for TS use.
7th April 2009, 10:28 PM #105
This may be the wrong place to put this but it is about licensing....
Can Microsoft actually tell you what licences you have for what applications or CALs or whatever?
I have taken over a school and have very little licensing info - the answer about purchasing an OEM and then upgrading has been useful..but I have no idea how many XP licences, CALs or Office licences we have or where they were bought from. It is likely that they were probably purchased from different places eg LEA, Civica etc but I am having a real problem finding out.
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