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Educational Software Thread, You tube clone or emulator? in Technical; Originally Posted by rush_tech Its not easy! We had the police involved in our case, They contacted them to get ...
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    You tube clone or emulator?

    Quote Originally Posted by rush_tech View Post
    Its not easy! We had the police involved in our case, They contacted them to get it removed.
    To try and avoid this type of problem I would love to set up on our RM CC3 network a streaming server that we can monitor and allow staff and pupils alike to post their own videos. Youtube is banned in our school so we have little trouble with it but, as an arts college it would be nice to "air" some of our own video footage, albeit locally. In man hours that alone that would be a "no go."
    So...what I am asking, I suppose, is does anyone know of a programme that will emulate youtube on an in house server?
    I have seen loads of php scripts for Linux boxes but sadly that goes to far for me, a simple install this and let them use/abuse it is what I am needing. Remember, you must be able to load up a video from a video/phone/whatever, have the files converted to say flv and move to some form of web based outlet all pretty well automated!

    Any idea's?
    Moriarty...

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    You could have a look at the new BBC Blast. It has a youtube-esque element to it and I believe the aspiring dancers/singers/whatnot can upload videos of their performances to be rated (subject to moderation by Auntie Beeb)

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    If you have the video's in .flv format red5 (http://osflash.org/red5) can serve them for you, however it's not the simplest thing to get your head round. I've only used it on linux so I don't know how easy it is to use on a windows server.

    We used the FLV player avaliable here to play the streams http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jona View Post
    If you have the video's in .flv format red5 (http://osflash.org/red5) can serve them for you
    I was under the impression that the video used in YouTube was in progressive FLV format - i.e. the video data itself is served as just a normal file by a normal web server, and it so happens that the video can start playing immediately as soon as part of it is on the user's system. YouTube videos are cached on the user's machine (you can copy them straight out of your Internet Explorer cache directory).

    FFMPEG can write FLV format, although I don't know what compression performance is like. This is hardly nice user-friendly stuff for Windows users here, though.

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    I think with youtube it's more complicated than it appears in that obviously you end up with the file as a flv on your machine but it isn't passed to the player over http (because http is rubbish for streaming).

    ffmpeg can definatly encode flv and to a good quality (well good enough for a web player) if you tweak the settings but we are getting into the realm of uber linux....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post

    FFMPEG can write FLV format, although I don't know what compression performance is like. This is hardly nice user-friendly stuff for Windows users here, though.

    What it needs is a web frontend to upload various formats and a backend ffmpeg to encode to flv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jona View Post
    I think with youtube it's more complicated than it appears in that obviously you end up with the file as a flv on your machine but it isn't passed to the player over http (because http is rubbish for streaming).
    Right, if I understand this correctly:

    http://www.adobepress.com/articles/a...14968&seqNum=2

    then FLV files can be transferred over HTTP or RTMP. I think it looks like YouTube files are transferred over HTTP, as you see the FLV wind up in the browser's cache (the document linked to above says that this is what happens with FLV over HTTP).

    Hmm - I need to take a closer look at Flash video. I have the video codec add-on for Flash MX 2004, but I really should upgrade to the new version. Just got to save up £500 or so...

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    How about using Joomla and one of the modules available?

    http://extensions.joomla.org/compone...808/Itemid,35/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    then FLV files can be transferred over HTTP or RTMP. I think it looks like YouTube files are transferred over HTTP, as you see the FLV wind up in the browser's cache (the document linked to above says that this is what happens with FLV over HTTP).
    David Hicks
    I wrote a youtube clone for a CMS system over the summer and we used RTMP rather than HTTP to make it more easily scalable from one backend streaming server I assumed this was the way youtube did it, but apparently not....

    Cheers
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    We recently invested in a new server which holds a thing called 'SchoolTube' (cheesy I know), I may be able to find some more information on this but it would depend on how much you could invest in the same type of thing financially, if not then I'm all out of ideas.

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