+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 22
Educational Software Thread, Scratch... in Technical; Hi All, Anybody using this got any heads up's, gimme's, gotcha's etc. Don't know anything about it, but a teacher ...
  1. #1
    Koldov's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    544
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts
    Rep Power
    40

    Scratch...

    Hi All,

    Anybody using this got any heads up's, gimme's, gotcha's etc.

    Don't know anything about it, but a teacher has been given the go ahead to start using it in her class and it's found its way to my desk.

    Kol.

  2. #2

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    5,131
    Thank Post
    916
    Thanked 1,517 Times in 1,034 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    654
    You can edit deployment settings in Scratch.ini, e.g. home drive, visible drives, proxy settings. Have that in the same folder as the MSI and it will be referenced automatically.

    Other than that, easy peasy, never had any problems with it.

  3. #3

    sparkeh's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    7,019
    Thank Post
    1,363
    Thanked 1,771 Times in 1,193 Posts
    Blog Entries
    22
    Rep Power
    530
    Yep:
    1. Use the msi here: http://info.scratch.mit.edu/sites/in....installer.zip
    2. Read the network install guide here: Network Installation | Scratch Documentation Site (hide your drives!)
    3. Enjoy!

  4. #4
    free780's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,062
    Thank Post
    45
    Thanked 86 Times in 81 Posts
    Rep Power
    23
    Does it still require java?

  5. #5
    TechSupp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    South Yorkshire
    Posts
    1,931
    Thank Post
    318
    Thanked 122 Times in 103 Posts
    Rep Power
    42
    Not as far as I am aware, just stick it on a shared drive and way you go. Think java may be required if you want to host the finished games online although I could be wrong.

  6. #6

    SimpleSi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Lancashire
    Posts
    5,829
    Thank Post
    1,476
    Thanked 594 Times in 446 Posts
    Rep Power
    169
    Java only needed for hosting/runnign scripts from a website - not needed for local or network installs
    Simon

  7. #7

    witch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Dorset
    Posts
    11,242
    Thank Post
    1,461
    Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,757 Posts
    Rep Power
    756
    We use it in both my schools - they both run a Scratch Club, in one case with the help of a STEMNET ambassador, and it just works

  8. #8
    Koldov's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    544
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts
    Rep Power
    40
    OK, thanks for all the replies.

    But I'm obviously having a bit of a mental block.

    Set-up a shared drive on the server, downloaded the installer, ran it.... and it installed to the C:\ drive of the server!

    Not really where I wanted it (but couldn't see anywhere to change the destination drive).

    This is from the installation guide:

    'It's possible to install a single copy of Scratch on a shared network drive if desired.'

    But it doesn't say how!

    Anybody got some idiot proof installation guidance? I'm obviously in need of it today

    Kol.

  9. #9
    AJWhite1970's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Wiltshire
    Posts
    348
    Thank Post
    95
    Thanked 79 Times in 61 Posts
    Rep Power
    18
    Hi

    Scratch - Imagine, Program, Share

    Ignore the link for scratchinstaller1.4.exe and instead download the zip file just under it.

    Unzip the file to any shared folder of your choice then unzip the msi file into the same folder, move the scratch.ini file to the same folder as the .exe file and edit to suite your needs, point everyone at scratch.exe and that's about it.

    My scratch.ini file is as follows

    [Global]
    DeferUpdate=1
    ShowConsole=0
    DynamicConsole=0
    ReduceCPUUsage=0
    ReduceCPUInBackground=0
    3ButtonMouse=0
    1ButtonMouse=0
    UseDirectSound=1
    PriorityBoost=1
    B3DXUsesOpenGL=1
    CaseSensitiveFileMode=0
    EnableAltF4Quit=0
    Home=R:\
    VisibleDrives=R:,q:,o:,e:
    ProxyServer=proxy.xxx.wilts.sch.uk
    ProxyPort=8080
    Language=en

    Hope that helps
    Andrew
    Last edited by AJWhite1970; 3rd June 2013 at 11:17 AM. Reason: Added extra details...

  10. Thanks to AJWhite1970 from:

    Koldov (3rd June 2013)

  11. #10
    Koldov's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    544
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts
    Rep Power
    40
    Many thanks, all a bit clearer now.

    Had a bit of trouble understanding unzip/extract MSI thing, as I'm not used to dealing with those.

    Googled up extract MSI, then the CMD for msiexec (then Googled up the reason it wouldn't extract - extracting to the same folder as the MSI is a no-no apparently ). I've heard 7-Zip or similar can do it?

    Now I need to open up a scratch image file, which is in the extracted MSI folder, so I need to make sure the little darlings can see that.

    There is an error message when I open it, 'attemp to index non-existent element in an ordered coll' clicking on proceed gives me 'Message not understood: withblankstrimmed'...

    Love the 'it's easy' reputation this has.... As always, 'it's easy' (WHEN YOU KNOW HOW!).

    Kol.

  12. #11

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    5,131
    Thank Post
    916
    Thanked 1,517 Times in 1,034 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    654
    Quote Originally Posted by Koldov View Post
    Many thanks, all a bit clearer now.

    Had a bit of trouble understanding unzip/extract MSI thing, as I'm not used to dealing with those.
    You don't need to unzip the MSI - there's a ZIP file on the Scratch download site that has everything you need.

  13. #12
    Koldov's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    544
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts
    Rep Power
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    You don't need to unzip the MSI - there's a ZIP file on the Scratch download site that has everything you need.
    Hmmmm... Just going by the links I was given. This is all I got in the 'For network deployments, use the Scratch1.4.msi.installer.zip' download.'

    SCRATCH_DOWNLOAD.jpg

    Kol.

  14. #13

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,609
    Thank Post
    729
    Thanked 1,688 Times in 1,502 Posts
    Rep Power
    433
    Grab a copy of universal extractor and run the msi through that.

    Ben

  15. #14

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    5,131
    Thank Post
    916
    Thanked 1,517 Times in 1,034 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    654
    Huh - they used to have a flat ZIP file up. My apologies. The MSI there is for network deployment i.e. pushing out by GPO.

    I suspect that you could use the .EXE download to install to a shared location and then just provide a shortcut to the EXE in that share; if not, use the MSI from that zip file in a Software Assignment Group Policy and change the settings in the INI file to control how the MSI installs. So long as the INI is in the same directory as the MSI, it will apply those settings.

  16. #15
    Koldov's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    544
    Thank Post
    116
    Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts
    Rep Power
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Huh - they used to have a flat ZIP file up. My apologies. The MSI there is for network deployment i.e. pushing out by GPO.
    No apologies needed! They have obviously 'improved' their download section lol Unfortunately, I'm a bit lacking in GPO skillz but I've got the .EXE extracted and chucked it on a share with the modified .INI with AJWhite1970's help (vintage year by the way ). So just needed to make a desktop shortcut in the students profile and work out what the errors mean...

    Kol.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Does anyone know an alternative to Scratch?
    By noser in forum Educational Software
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 23rd May 2012, 10:09 AM
  2. Scratch 1.2 released
    By SimpleSi in forum Educational Software
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 25th June 2008, 02:36 PM
  3. No more scratched discs
    By EduTech in forum General Chat
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 6th October 2007, 06:52 PM
  4. Scratch
    By Espada in forum Downloads
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 18th May 2007, 09:19 AM
  5. setting up group policy from scratch
    By projector1 in forum Windows
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 6th October 2006, 02:57 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •