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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    I think this whole thing is criminal what happened to giving more control back to the schools on how they run their own schools all this about being on the wind down to BSf where things will just be forced on you is ridiculous.

    Looks like its coming up to the time to jump before yuo get pushed I couldn't live on any decrease in salary at all wife would definately have to go back to work then and then we'd still get killed on the child care costs. I'd rather she is at home with the children while they are still young but couldn't support them on a pay cut.

    We are currently in the process of being evaluated here.

    If you're not in a union time to join methinks.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Just look at what happened with teachers and TLRs ... the brown stuff hit the rotating thing ... and they had the backing of the unions ...

    The difficulty is (fx:climbs on to the soap box) we need to prove that in house support makes a difference to the learning of students.

    I cannot stress how much people need to do as Russ suggests ... speak to your Head ... if you are a Specialist School then get your schools to prepare case studies about your impact and get them published.

    Make it damn embarassing for the LA to make the change. That is how lots of teachers protected their salary with the TLRs.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
    we need to prove that in house support makes a difference to the learning of students.
    Trouble is that we have had it stressed to us that the whole job evaluation (or should that be re-evaluation) farce is NOTHING to do with teaching and learning.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Yeah ... and didn't they think that schools dinners didn't have any effect on T&L too?

    Give them enough evidence ... and get the backing from unions and people interesting in fighting your corner and they will change their minds.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    I'm going to suggest to SMT that all members of staff do not approach techies in corridors, or "pop in", as they were "just passing" our office (it's at the end of a corridor), but that they can only phone us for help, and everything has to be done remotely. Keep that up for a fortnight.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    On a more serious note, such large reductions in salary would make it more attractive for private companies to take (tupe) our jobs.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by beeswax
    On a more serious note, such large reductions in salary would make it more attractive for private companies to take (tupe) our jobs.
    sorry, didn't see that several hundred people had already made this point,
    regards, Mr. Magoo

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    It's good to see that this topic has fired up some thoughts and has helped me a great deal. Many thanks.

    I now have a number of thoughts and options to think about, with my first to approach our Head abnout the situation. On a different scale, we as as school are preparing for a fight as there are so many of us taking big cuts. Some people have even suggested that the cuts are in breach of our Human rights, but i'm not too sure.

    Thanks everyone.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    For those of us (me included) who don't have a well defined, documented job description covering our roles & responsibilities, maybe it is time we sat down and produced one & compared it against the BECTA Competency Framework. That way, we will be a bit more prepared for our own job evaluation debate when it happens?

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    £5000 pay cut for me , on the plus side the head said she will not let it happen and has listed a long list of things she can do to stop it.

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers
    £5000 pay cut for me , on the plus side the head said she will not let it happen and has listed a long list of things she can do to stop it.
    £5000??? You've been stitched up mate! Don't you find it interesting that the alleged 25% of people who are losing money seems to be a lot greater than the supposed 45% who are gaining?

    To be fair our Head is being very supportive to everyone and is intending to fight all the cuts!

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by nawbus
    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers
    £5000 pay cut for me , on the plus side the head said she will not let it happen and has listed a long list of things she can do to stop it.
    £5000??? You've been stitched up mate! Don't you find it interesting that the alleged 25% of people who are losing money seems to be a lot greater than the supposed 45% who are gaining?

    To be fair our Head is being very supportive to everyone and is intending to fight all the cuts!
    Our head said one option is to "just opt out", apparently she has the power to (but those having a raise would not get it, and then they would not be happy), another is to give us fake job roles, another is to take the council to court.

    There is only 1 outcome from this job evaluation.

    You have a pay cut - pissed off because its a cut
    You stay the same - pissed off because its not a raise
    Have a pay increase - pissed off because its not enough

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    This is getting ridiculous! Why don't they just pay ICT staff a decent wage!? Grrrr :x

    I know it will affect all of us but I hope it's positive for me, I started 3 years ago on £8k and now just gone up to £11k... and there are trainee technicain jobs advertised on £14k. :x :?

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    Re: Staffordshire Job evaluation - Are you affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    This is getting ridiculous! Why don't they just pay ICT staff a decent wage!? Grrrr :x
    Because we are not teachers and are not seen as important enough (not a dig at teachers btw, just a comment on the pay structures!)

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