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    There is a job opening at a secondary in Derbyshire for a network manager position in a Maths / Computing specialist school and I'm curious what people think it should pay. Facility wise:

    Just over 800 computers (~ 550 laptops, 250 base units). All staff have their own laptop
    15 servers
    Promethean activboards in 95% of teaching classrooms (~50-55)
    Wireless access points in 95% of teaching classrooms
    The usual with regard to switches / printers.
    Responsible for 3 technicians (2 general technicians, 1 audio/video technician)

    ... and all the other stuff that goes with it (staff training, managing SIMS etc)

    Any advice would be useful.

    Thanks

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    Typically in derbyshire that post would be in the Scale 6/SO1-SO2 region. I would expect SO1/SO2 but some might try to start it on Scale 6.

    Scale 6
    26 22,001
    27 22,730
    28 23,473
    SO1
    29 24,402
    30 25,220
    31 26,016
    SO2
    32 26,784
    33 27,573
    34 28,353
    NJC salary scales

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    I love point 26 on Scale 6 - 22,001, yes 1! WOW! That 1 will pay for soooo much in this day and age won't it!

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    I'm about to start the last week of my current job as the only IT tech at my school (working term time plus 10 days) on 13k. For my replacement, they've advertised for a Network Manager working full time for 22k-26k. Even taking into account the loss of school holidays, I'm pretty sure the new person will still be earning more than I was on, despite what my manager and the head tried to tell me - I worked it out to be at least 4k more, although my maths may be off!

    I don't really want to kick up a fuss about the situation, but I'm not at all happy about it either... particularly when we were PAT trained and expected to test all the appliances in the school, and my replacement probably won't have that expectation placed on them.

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    nm in liverpool

    1000+ users
    100+ staff
    450 machines inc laptops
    9 servers etc

    manage our own mail,and every system (no contractors to manage any systems-all inhouse), manage 2 ict techs
    help with bsf documentation, train some staff, propose strategies to more the school forward
    manage all instalations
    interactive whiteboards projectors etc
    manage sims (no sims manager currently)
    brought in new backup systems replaced every server in the place and really trying to modernise it.


    pay scale 5 - 19k

    from what i have been reading im guessing im on the lower scale for my job role>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landi View Post
    nm in liverpool

    1000+ users
    100+ staff
    450 machines inc laptops
    9 servers etc

    manage our own mail,and every system (no contractors to manage any systems-all inhouse), manage 2 ict techs
    help with bsf documentation, train some staff, propose strategies to more the school forward
    manage all instalations
    interactive whiteboards projectors etc
    manage sims (no sims manager currently)
    brought in new backup systems replaced every server in the place and really trying to modernise it.


    pay scale 5 - 19k

    from what i have been reading im guessing im on the lower scale for my job role>?
    You should expect to be on 24K, and thats low compared to private sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICT_GUY View Post
    You should expect to be on 24K, and thats low compared to private sector.
    Agreed. Somebody is having a joke with that wage, in fact it is getting ranked in the 'disgusting' bracket!

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    I thought i would join in...

    Even tho im not a NM this is my job des.


    There is the NM and 2 techs (jnr_ and me lead tech


    Maintain our in house VLE (Frog)
    Support 100+ user Avaya IP400 system

    1700+ students support with AD

    150+ Teaching staff and TAs with AD

    700+ Workstations (Desktops, thins and staff laptops)

    12 servers (3 dcs, 4 files servers, 2 thin severs, 1 exchange, 1 VLE server, 1 wireless server)

    cabling is all sorted in house

    I just installed our new school wireless (100% coverage)

    and all other other normal bits (ghost, sims etc etc)


    16k kent

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    Not good either Top of grade scale 5 for Technicians and SO1 and So2 for NM is more usual.


    Wes

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesleyw View Post
    Not good either Top of grade scale 5 for Technicians and SO1 and So2 for NM is more usual.


    Wes

    Thats what it should be but some schools will just try to get away with a little as they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landi View Post
    nm in liverpool

    1000+ users
    100+ staff
    450 machines inc laptops
    9 servers etc

    manage our own mail,and every system (no contractors to manage any systems-all inhouse), manage 2 ict techs
    help with bsf documentation, train some staff, propose strategies to more the school forward
    manage all instalations
    interactive whiteboards projectors etc
    manage sims (no sims manager currently)
    brought in new backup systems replaced every server in the place and really trying to modernise it.


    pay scale 5 - 19k

    from what i have been reading im guessing im on the lower scale for my job role>?
    19 k for network manager role is really poor! 23-24K should be min (tho this aint that good either) Are you doing any day release training etc?

    It annoys me that schools can get away with this kind of pay!

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    It annoys me that schools can get away with this kind of pay!

    We don't have a good union to look after our interests like teachers do and if people will keep taking these jobs then schools will pay it. This is the difference if you tried to get a teacher on 19K no one would apply, of course a school would never 'insult' a teacher with such a salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    ...if people will keep taking these jobs then schools will pay it
    Hit the nail on the head there feller

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    This is an age old debate, but the problem being that there is always someone who is looking to get into IT and working in a school provides very good grounding. I started my first job in a school on about 11k and term time only thinking that once I was there and could prove my skills and enhance the job, maybe promotion (well more pay) may be a possibility. Problem being as like many of you here, the school didn't recognise the job I was doing changed over the years, and refused to acknowledge I had taken on the role of a NM and not an entry level tech. Sadly the biggest jump came from going to full time, and they tried to tell me that it was a pay rise rather than change my scale.

    Sad thing is like cookie_monster says, while people keep taking these jobs things wont change.

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    As has been mentioned beofre, it really doesn't matter how many workstations you look after, or how many users at the school (although that should determine the schools budget...) What really matters is the SLT view of your job, and how important they deem ICT.

    The unfortunate state of school support staff contracts is that they are largely based on who you manage, and not on the quality of the job you do. If my school added another 600 laptops (within the realms of possibility), I wouldn't expect to get paid more to support them, as my job description doesn't change (it would remain "support all hardware on site" or similar).

    However, if I was asked to plan, budget, and implement such a system, with direct contact with the SLT, then I would expect a pay increase. Not only would the SLT's opinion of me differ, but also I would be adding new responsibilities to my job role.

    I do find it surprising the difference in pay for people doing essentially the same job. But if you can sell yourself to the governors, SLT, Head teacher, your line manager, that you are doing a job, and helping the school succeed in its plans, then your worth to the school increases, as should your pay!

    My final point would be that you have to see the entire school picture, and actively help departments, faculties, the SLT in their aims. You are, afterall, an enabler. You support teaching and learning. It doesn't matter if you have the most efficient server setup ever, if its not seen to help teaching and learning, it won't matter a dime when your pay review comes up.

    Just my two cents.

    For the record, I'm on 27k rising to 30k+ in April

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