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    Becoming a Network Manager

    Hello,

    I am 15 and would like to become a Network Manager. I am currently taking Btec ICT at School and I am learning alot and I am going to be doing work experience with my Schools ICT Techs. Now what do I need to know to become a Network Manager? I am most hopeing to be Windows based so yeah please tell me things like scripting etc.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    The wealth of skills you need to become a good network manager is pretty broad. You need to get in as a basic technician, modern apprenticeships good for this then work your way up. The more you get involved with managing projects, budgets and people will lead you in the right direction towards a more senior position. For a guide on what to learn just cram as much in as you can, knowing lots of different coding terminology is great but most of this can be researched when needed, better is to work on logic and problem solving skills along with the basics of network management, teamwork and communication.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Now what do I need to know to become a Network Manager?
    Not a great deal really - having a brown nose helps..... Just joking..... :-)

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    At the age of 15 and you already know what you want to do... at that age i didnt know what i wanted to do the next day let alone my life, and i still to some degree dont know where im going

    Agree with iatkinson, rack up as much experience and knowledge as you can and work your way up. Its a rare for someone to just jump straight into a network managers position.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Definately need a broad range of knowledge in order to make the right decisions.

    When I first started I didn't know what the difference was between a Hub and Switch was let alone the different Layers. Understanding the Client/Server network along with the physical networkings (I rekon) is the best place to start.

    Keep looking at these forums as someone will have the answers that you need. Also as soon as you can get a couple of old computers or one fast system (using VMWare) and then build a mini network. Break it, Fix it, Break it again and fix it again. Hands on experience is the greatest teacher.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Being a Network Manager, at least for me, means being good at everything a random person throws at you. So the skills I have would be

    *Windows Server (NT4/2000/2K3)
    *Windows (98/ME/2000/XP/Vista)
    *Linux and its many heads
    *Mac OS (although I have yet to use OS X Server, but will be picking this up shortly)
    *Network infrastructure installation
    *Network design, including both layer 2 and layer 3 concepts and tools (QoS, VLANs, RADIUS, broadcast storm prevention etc...)
    *Network Monitoring and incident identification
    *Any software you can imagine, from Office to Photoshop to 'Nessy'
    *Laser printer maintenance and repair
    *Inkjet printer maintenance and repair
    *Video editing and filming
    *Sound editing and recording
    *VOIP phone system design, installation and maintenance (Asterisk)
    *iSCSI
    *Video Conferencing and H323
    *Systems procurement and maintaining a good relationship with suppliers
    *Major project design and implementation (such as the complete refurbishment of 3 ICT suites at the same time)
    *Problem solving skills

    Plus a lot more. This is one of the problems with school network managers - we do a huge amount of different things but most of the time a employer will never realise it as they never see it.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    > I am 15 and would like to become a Network Manager. I am currently
    > taking Btec ICT at School and I am learning alot and I am going to be
    > doing work experience with my Schools ICT Techs.

    What do you plan to do post-16? Are you going to do A-levels and look to go to university, or do you plan to start work at 18?

    > Now what do I need to know to become a Network Manager? I am most
    > hopeing to be Windows based so yeah please tell me things like scripting
    > etc.

    Don't get to fixated on the job title "network manager", at 15 a vague "something to do with computers" will suffice. Get the hang of programming. The easiest way to learn how to program is to have some kind of project that you want to complete. This might be a game, or a utility of some kind - I'm sure we can come up with a few suggestions if you like (do you have to do coursework or assignments for your Btec?). Don't worry too much about which language you program in, have a go at several - with practice you can pick up the syntax of new languages in a couple of days.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    @dhicks - some sound advice

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Just don't go down the strictly Microsoft route, there is more to IT than that excuse of a company. As localzuk pointed out, Linux and UNIX knowledge is quite valuable in this day and age.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by apeo
    At the age of 15 and you already know what you want to do... at that age i didnt know what i wanted to do the next day let alone my life, and i still to some degree dont know where im going

    Agree with iatkinson, rack up as much experience and knowledge as you can and work your way up. Its a rare for someone to just jump straight into a network managers position.
    At 15 I just wanted to pass my GCSE's, get the exams over and done with and get the hell out of my school.

    My next step was just following what others (and my older brother) did. Got to 6th form to do A-Levels. I had no idea what I wanted from studying or even had a thought about career options. The plan was to just do the A-levels I was good at and see what came of it.

    After a couple of false starts (training, work, degree course change)
    it wasn't until 2001/2002 and the work year of my degree course that I realised i wanted to be a sysadmin. I love what I do but.........

    With hindsight, I wish I had gone down the specialist route, not because of job enjoyment, but becuase of career progression and pay. What stopped me from doing this was that I wasn't academically talented, and that's what the IT consultancies are looking for....bright people with excellent grades who they can train to work on big projects. I know a lot of people who got 2:1's and 1:1's and are now Oracle or SAP gurus...very different to the life of a school network manager. Not necessarily more enjoyable.

    People like IBM and HP are looking for bright graduates to take on in their 'acadmies' thus within a few months you could be a fully qualified storage or openview guru working on customer projects. Within a few years you could strike out on your own and earn £600+ a day as a consultant. That's if you go down the university route and that would be my recommendation..get onto a good IT degree (you don't need straight A's to get onto a good IT degree) with a university who have links with the IT companies, then choose carefully your work placement and get onto one of these 'academy' or graduate apprentice programs after you graduate and you'll be set for many years to come. Easier said than done, but if you identify the opportunities early on you can accomplish all of this.

    You'll also have more career options if you get an IT related degree. You can still work in IT support if you want part-time and develop some DBA, networking or programming skills while you study but aim high as there's a serious skills gap in the higher paid areas of IT that's only going to become more acute over the next few years. If you're already thinking about your career at 15 you could be the type of person who cashes in 7 or 8 years from now.

    That's the route I wish I had taken, nothing wrong working as an NM in education but it's just not financially rewarding - particularly when you look at the current cost of living and house prices. Even if you're a senior manager on £35K after years of working you're way up you could still find yourself with little left over each month after you pay your mortgage, council tax and bills.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    IMHO - don't do it - its a thankless task and not particularly well paid, you have to completely relearn your knowledgebase every couple of years and when you're past 40 - you can't get a decent job for love nor money.

    If you're bright - be an accountant, engineer or a lawyer - at least they have a properly defined career structure.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    As localzuk pointed out, Linux and UNIX knowledge is quite valuable in this day and age.
    What about OS/2 ?

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    I wouldn't necessarily go down the degree route. I did that and it was cack. The lifestyle was good, but the course was too much theory based. I found that when I left I was applying for jobs but not getting past the interview as it soon became apparent that I didn't have the practical knowlegde to backup the theory.

    I went travelling for a bit after Uni, and when I got back my theory was too old to get me into any decent job. I stumbled around for a couple of years doing a few different things until I stumbled into where I am now, an IT Tech in a secondary school. I am now hoping that with my experience here and my qualifications I can get more jobs a little easier in the future.

    One thing is for certain you NEED experience. With only qualifications you cant get the jobs that need practical experience and you cant get the entry level jobs as they think you will soon leave for being over qualified. Work and train on the job - a happy medium. If you can find a company that will pay for your training too - even better

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by pallen
    I wouldn't necessarily go down the degree route. I did that and it was cack. The lifestyle was good, but the course was too much theory based. I found that when I left I was applying for jobs but not getting past the interview as it soon became apparent that I didn't have the practical knowlegde to backup the theory.

    I went travelling for a bit after Uni, and when I got back my theory was too old to get me into any decent job. I stumbled around for a couple of years doing a few different things until I stumbled into where I am now, an IT Tech in a secondary school. I am now hoping that with my experience here and my qualifications I can get more jobs a little easier in the future.

    One thing is for certain you NEED experience. With only qualifications you cant get the jobs that need practical experience and you cant get the entry level jobs as they think you will soon leave for being over qualified. Work and train on the job - a happy medium. If you can find a company that will pay for your training too - even better
    I think that's true if you do the wrong degree at the wrong institution, and you don't understand the options available to you on completion of the degree. For a school technician relevant work experience is crucial. That's why it's all the more important that you get the opportunity to do an industrial placement as tpart of the degree.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    What about OS/2 ?
    Who uses OS/2?

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