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Educational IT Jobs Thread, Becoming a Network Manager in United Kingdom (UK) Specific Forums; Originally Posted by mattx As localzuk pointed out, Linux and UNIX knowledge is quite valuable in this day and age. ...
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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    As localzuk pointed out, Linux and UNIX knowledge is quite valuable in this day and age.
    What about OS/2 ?
    OS/2 was a great operating system. At the time light years ahead of Windows, But is anyone still using it ? even as a legacy OS and if so who and how ? I know you may have said it tongue in cheek, but OS/2 rocks,
    and I'd like to hear from any OS/2 users if there are any of you left.

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    OS/2 is where I learnt most of my related OS skills from - LAN & Warp server pi55ed all over windows and linux at the time. I remember running OS/2 ver 3 and 4 on my old overclocked P75s for weeks at a time without having to re-boot.
    Shame IBM never really marketed it proberly. Just did a quick check for the OS/2 site I used to use all the time and its no longer there - [ the OS/2 supersite ]

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    OS/2 is where I learnt most of my related OS skills from - LAN & Warp server pi55ed all over windows and linux at the time. I remember running OS/2 ver 3 and 4 on my old overclocked P75s for weeks at a time without having to re-boot.
    Shame IBM never really marketed it proberly. Just did a quick check for the OS/2 site I used to use all the time and its no longer there - [ the OS/2 supersite ]
    So what period are we talking about here, must have been around 1995/96, didn't realise there was an OS/2 server aswell, must have been a killer combo way better than what was around at the time, NT 3.51 (urghhhhh!!!) and Netware 4.x (IPX only I think).

    Agree with you that it was all down to marketing, i heard that there have been numerous requests from OS/2 fans to IBM to release it to the community as an open source project.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    eComStation is a PC operating system based on OS/2, published by Serenity Systems International, USA. It includes several additions and accompanying software.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffMonkey
    IMHO - don't do it - its a thankless task and not particularly well paid, you have to completely relearn your knowledgebase every couple of years and when you're past 40 - you can't get a decent job for love nor money.

    If you're bright - be an accountant, engineer or a lawyer - at least they have a properly defined career structure.
    I agree with most of what you've said, but i wouldn't recommend a bright person becoming an accountant or lawyer. What a waste of talent!!!

    There are defined career structures within IT but those companies tend to be blue chips or consultancies. You can get the right training and structured training as a technology consultant or project manager but it's diffcult in education. If you land a job in a large university or within the LA that person may be able to achieve that kind of career progession.

    Retooling every few years is presumably not so much of a chore if you specialise in a particular area, for example if you're a MIS or sharepoint specialist.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambert
    Hello,

    I am 15 and would like to become a Network Manager. I am currently taking Btec ICT at School and I am learning alot and I am going to be doing work experience with my Schools ICT Techs. Now what do I need to know to become a Network Manager? I am most hopeing to be Windows based so yeah please tell me things like scripting etc.
    Trust me mate don't do it..... become a database designer or something that pays well.

    The 3rd worst job in the UK is a Network Manager

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Grommit
    The 3rd worst job in the UK is a Network Manager
    OK, I'll bite... what are the other 2? :-k

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by sahmeepee
    Quote Originally Posted by Grommit
    The 3rd worst job in the UK is a Network Manager
    OK, I'll bite... what are the other 2? :-k
    According to the NUT, one of those would probably be "Teacher"

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Don't become an accountant or a lawyer. What you might like to consider is getting some experience from an engineering aspect as opposed to network management.

    What people are saying about it not paying well and being thankless. The pay is bad because they're coming from an educational ICT point of view...the pay can be better in industry if you find the right company and you have a specialism that they require for example Netware, Active directory or maybe a network security specialist and they're concerned with intrusion detection/prevention or something.

    Being a thankless job. Well that's just the way the world is these days. Grumpy end-users wanting everything done last week and the way they asked not the proper way.

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    I would actually like to work in a school enviroment.

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    I am only 20 and an ICT Director in charge of NM's across many schools. Definately go in through the apprentice route and work your way up through the ranks, this is what I did.

    I did have a couple of lucky breaks where people left and I was the only person suitable to take over etc but work hard, learn as much as you can - and you can do whatever you want.

    Tom

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by tscnmuk
    I am only 20 and an ICT Director in charge of NM's across many schools. Definately go in through the apprentice route and work your way up through the ranks, this is what I did.

    I did have a couple of lucky breaks where people left and I was the only person suitable to take over etc but work hard, learn as much as you can - and you can do whatever you want.

    Tom
    Lucky b******! is all I can say to that tscmuk I want that job.

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    I've heard these NM types can be a nightmare to manage

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    So what period are we talking about here, must have been around 1995/96, didn't realise there was an OS/2 server aswell, must have been a killer combo way better than what was around at the time, NT 3.51 (urghhhhh!!!) and Netware 4.x (IPX only I think).

    Agree with you that it was all down to marketing, i heard that there have been numerous requests from OS/2 fans to IBM to release it to the community as an open source project.
    IPX - ha ha - god, that brings back memories....
    I worked with OS/2 ver 2,3 and 4. If memory serves me correct there was LAN server and WARP server - I cannot remember the differences.
    Both pi55ed all over NT 3.51 and NT 4 when it came out. OS/2 ver 3 had win 3.1 intergrated in enhanced mode - and getting office ver 5 [ i think ] to work along side was not a problem. We also managed to intergrate NT4 as data servers which worked along side OS/2 quite nicely as we also had some windows 2000 servers + then some citrix farms. It was a nice complex network which worked really well. In the end Windows and citrix was the winner over a 10 year period for me of around 7 or so years. We also had a mainframe + other lotus stuff running.
    OS/2 builds were easy, all scripted and built via netbui !! I developed a windows95 thin client build - again over netbui on token ring.
    Anyway I'm waffling.
    Now I could go down the network manager route if I wanted but I won't because I want to stay technical, I want to get my hands dirty, I want to work and develop stuff. I've seen people like me go down the manager route and its the biggest mistake's they ever make in their lives. They loose the ability quite quickly on the technical aspect and in the end just blab out manager clap trap speak to try and sound big and important.
    Then of course if you work in the private sector [ large business etc ] then as soon as hard times hit, its the managers that get the shove first.
    IT / Network managers - [ most of them ] are nothing more than failed technicians, or are people in place of employment who have been promoted out of the way because they were sh1t at what they did to start with and no one liked them.

    Gosh is that the time - just finished watching the Pink Floyd prog on BBC1 - you can tell that was most probably directed / produced by a manager of sorts as it was rather sh1t.

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    Re: Becoming a Network Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx
    OS/2 is where I learnt most of my related OS skills from - LAN & Warp server pi55ed all over windows and linux at the time. I remember running OS/2 ver 3 and 4 on my old overclocked P75s for weeks at a time without having to re-boot.
    Shame IBM never really marketed it proberly. Just did a quick check for the OS/2 site I used to use all the time and its no longer there - [ the OS/2 supersite ]
    Pointless bit of information for you; The checkout system in most CO-OP stores ran OS/2 as the operating system for their custom written checkout application, they were incredibly reliable too. They're all being replaced with flatscreen type checkouts now, don't think there's any of the old ones left anymore (they had the little 8 inch VGA screens as the customer display)

    Mike.

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