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    Nottinghamshire members - One County, One Network

    Anyone out there who knows a lot about this? Or even anything definitive about this? Had the guy from the County Council here this morning to look at our current infrastructure and I have to say I'm slightly concerned.

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    Nottinghamshire is leaving EMBC, the county council have got synetrix to run a new service, it'll be pretty much like the old one (exchange, netsweeper etc), except the council people will use it too, also we get 10/100 instead of 2/10 for primary/secondary. Starts in Sep, has to be finished for March as that's when their contract for the old system ends.

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    I gleaned that much this morning but it was things like:

    • would we now have direct access to Synetrix or would we still need to call someone else first
    • what disruption there would be during installation
    • when would the actual installations take place (best during half term, etc. but that is the only time I can take holiday)
    • amount of equipment required compared to what we have now


    I did have a few more that have completely flown out of my head now I'm trying to mention them here!

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    The only thing I was told was Faster connection speeds and one aim was to have one login to access Wired, Fronter and Email. I was not aware any changes needed to be made to our networks. I thought it was all web based with one network ID to access all the different NottsCC websites.

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    1. No info, but I'll bet on calling Edit, they'll need a job when everyone's all BSF.
    3. Up to BT apparently for the actual switchover, which will be at the exchange end. They don't have dates yet anyway afaik
    4. I suppose they'd upgrade the router if it's too old, possibly put in more cable/connections for the speed upgrade if you're not on fiber.

    The one location we had fiber in (for about 6 months until we moved (I know)), needed 1U for the fiber endpoint, and 1U for the router. The single/dual SDSL/Access SDH stuff is just a couple of boxes mounted on the wall/in the bottom of the cab.

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    They want to check what router/connection etc you have currently I think

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    I was told this morning that we would have new equipment installed, which will actually require a new switch cabinet, partly because the connections to the Library and Youth Centre will be merged with ours. When I asked if we would therefore get more bandwidth to accomodate 3 he didn't know.

    As the equipment is all located in our building what happens if we need to switch the power off for work we need doing? Also if the library's / youth centre's connection dies outside of school hours then they won't even be able to reboot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavhc View Post
    The one location we had fiber in (for about 6 months until we moved (I know)), needed 1U for the fiber endpoint, and 1U for the router. The single/dual SDSL/Access SDH stuff is just a couple of boxes mounted on the wall/in the bottom of the cab.
    I was told they needed at least 5U of rack space.

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    Information gleamed thus far from various EdIT sources:

    • Connections will be moved over by the March 2011 renewal date of EMBC contract
    • Connections may not be at upgraded speed at above date
    • Systems will still run through Synetrix, I believe 1 datacentre will be County Hall, the other being the current one in Derby
    • External IP addresses for external services will move across
    • Internal IP addresses will stay the same as well
    • Current services (filtering, email etc) will be at least maintained, if not improved in some areas
    • First port of call for faults will remain as EdIT
    • The majority of routers have hit or are nearing EoL so they are looking to replace (also, some won't support the increased speed natively)

    If I remember anything else, I'll let you know.

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    Thanks for that - pretty much what I've heard as well.

    The connection speed not being upgraded by the time they are moved over could be a big issue for us as we are already maxing ours out a lot of the time. Using our existing connection to also service other buildings would not therefore be a positive step!

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    As the LA have access to all traffic graphs, I would assume that they'll prioritise upgrades in the following order:

    Organisations who are moving to sharing network connection with another who already have high usage (will be shown on cacti)
    Organisations who are moving to sharing network connection with another
    Organisations with high usage (but who aren't being joined with another, so could be argued that their bandwidth requirements should not increase)
    Others

    I think that some connections will be upgraded before March 2011, maybe even on move across, but it very much will depend on the speed at which connections are moved over. I would think that as combining the connection for multiple organizations like in your situation will be some significant work (routing, vlans [or physically separate router interfaces], physical network links to other organizations), they will look to also include the upgrade at this point (otherwise they'll be coming in twice for 1 places connection). It may be worth talking to the powers that be specifically about your situation and see if they have any plans in place.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willott View Post
    It may be worth talking to the powers that be specifically about your situation and see if they have any plans in place.
    I spoke directly with Pete Hepworth at ICT Services on the 18th. He telephoned me after I sent him an email outlining some of my concerns so he is aware - in fact it was Pete who told me that we are hammering our connection.

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    I realised a bit ago that although we can't snmp monitor the routers, we can monitor the port on the switch that the router connects to, cue nice graphs.

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    You can do that... or you could request access from EdIT to Cacti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willott View Post
    You can do that... or you could request access from EdIT to Cacti
    That's what I did. It's proved quite useful so far.

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