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Courses and Training Thread, MCITP Qualification in Training and Courses; Originally Posted by dezt the 2003 upgrade exam has been retired now, i should have done the exam before it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezt View Post
    the 2003 upgrade exam has been retired now, i should have done the exam before it was retired but never kept up with studying, so i've got to start from scratch now

    I do remember now that's why I rushed to do it in 2008 even though I was busy. Thats a pain that they would retire the upgrade exam when you can still take the 2003 exams

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    When working towards MCITP 2008 EA, any tips on which book/exams to cover first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apeo View Post
    When working towards MCITP 2008 EA, any tips on which book/exams to cover first?
    Personally, I would do it in this order, if starting from fresh:

    Client (either the 70-620 or the 70-680), then 70-640, then 70-642, then 70-643, then the 70-647.

    Because I did the upgrade path, I did it in this way: Client (70-620), upgrade exam (which is equivilant to the 640, 642 & 643), then the Pro exam (70-647).

    -Ken

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    For what it's worth I've started with 70-640. Does anybody know how long we have between taking exams? If I pass 70-640 I'll have an MCP, I am right in thinking I can do each MCP one at a time over a period of months (closer to a year probably) and then claim for the MCITP once I've passed the final MCP in a year or so's time?

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    You can take them all in one week if you want but you can't retake one within 2 weeks of not passing I think. Once you have all of the modules for a cert it will automatically be added to your transcript on the MCP site. You'll be an MCP after passing your first cert.

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    I know this is a how long is a piece of string question, but how long does it take to complete each module using self study?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teejay View Post
    I know this is a how long is a piece of string question, but how long does it take to complete each module using self study?
    It all depends on you.
    Assuming when you say 'module' you mean module in a single book for a single exam.

    On average I get through around 2 a night, but I've been busy busy so I'm down to 1 a night.

    If you mean Exams... that's a tough one - for my 70-646 (MCITP: SA) I took 2 weeks flat from doing the MCSE Upgrade to 2008 exam, for my current one 70-647 I'm looking at 3 weeks.

    I'd say if you put aside around 2 hours a night (giving you a chance to unwind after work), aim for a chapter a night. If you did that - you should be ready in 3 weeks but TAKE the practice tests, treat them as if they were a real exam.

    What do I mean by this? DON'T view the answers (as the risk is that you memorise the answer to the question, rather than learning the answer) - take it as a real exam. Bear in mind that in the exam room it's a more pressured than the self-test stuff, so this may well help or hinder you, so plan accordingly.

    Take a couple of mints with you (if you like mints) or boiled sweets to suck on during the exam as this will help you to stay calm and collected and the sugar boost will help you think.

    Bear in mind this is what works for me - it may not work for you but feel free to give it a blast - the best bit of advice besides all that has been given above - DON'T go for the exam if you don't feel ready.

    In short - you should be booking the exam when you feel it's a 50/50 chance of passing, make that date a week or 2 weeks off - so you have time to continue studying.

    The worst thing is you book the exam and then pressure yourself and beat yourself up if your self-test scores aren't great - the self-tests are to help you locate your weak points to improve, but don't ignore other things at the cost of that. Cover everything - if you have time (and you should) - recover things you are weakest in as you can bet that's what they'll ask

    HTH,

    Az

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    Just to be clear, sorry me being a bit thick, but I actually want to take as long as possible doing this - not in any rush. So I just want to be certain their are no time limits between certs. If I pass 1 cert I don't have to do the exams for the over carts within 1 week or 3 months or anything silly like that in order to get the MCITP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    For what it's worth I've started with 70-640. Does anybody know how long we have between taking exams? If I pass 70-640 I'll have an MCP, I am right in thinking I can do each MCP one at a time over a period of months (closer to a year probably) and then claim for the MCITP once I've passed the final MCP in a year or so's time?
    I think the cert for this is known as an MCTS now, and i've not seen anything stating anywhere that puts a time limit as to how long you can take between the first and last MCTS to achieve the MCITP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezt View Post
    Ok, so my Microsoft Press books have come today and i'm ready to start working my way through the exams, I was wondering if anyone had any tips for self study, as a course is too much for me and the school has already agreed to buy the books and pay for my exams.

    I have a quad-core HP PC with 4Gb Ram at home ready and waiting to be used for studying on, I was thinking of using VMWare Workstation or something similar to virtualise my servers as I work through the books. Can anyone else suggest anything I may need to help get through the exams.

    I've decided to do the 3 core exams that count towards the Server Administrator and Enterprise Administrator first, then, depending on how confident I feel I may go for the final Server Administrator exam and then the final 2 Enterprise Administrator exams.
    VMware ESXi would work well also Hyper-V with Server 2008 R2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    For what it's worth I've started with 70-640. Does anybody know how long we have between taking exams? If I pass 70-640 I'll have an MCP, I am right in thinking I can do each MCP one at a time over a period of months (closer to a year probably) and then claim for the MCITP once I've passed the final MCP in a year or so's time?
    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    You can take them all in one week if you want but you can't retake one within 2 weeks of not passing I think. Once you have all of the modules for a cert it will automatically be added to your transcript on the MCP site. You'll be an MCP after passing your first cert.
    You won't be a MCP if you pass the 70-640 (or any of the new Gen exams), you'll be a MCTS. However you'll be part of the MCP program. You'll only gain the MCP credential if you pass one of the old gen exams.

    -ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Just to be clear, sorry me being a bit thick, but I actually want to take as long as possible doing this - not in any rush. So I just want to be certain their are no time limits between certs. If I pass 1 cert I don't have to do the exams for the over carts within 1 week or 3 months or anything silly like that in order to get the MCITP?

    The certs are available for as long as the product is in mainstream support.


    Q. How long will the certification be valid?

    A.
    For our newest credentials, such as Microsoft Certified Technical Specialist (MCTS), Microsoft Certified IT Professional (MCITP), and Microsoft Certified Professional Developer (MCPD), the credential retires along with the product support for the technology being tested. The credential will still appear on your transcript but will be listed as retired. In most cases, an upgrade path (usually one exam) will be available for individuals who have that credential so that they can demonstrate their skills on the newest version of the technology without completing all exams associated with the new credential.

    The legacy Microsoft credentials, such as Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) and Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA) do not expire, but as Microsoft releases new versions of the associated technology, these credentials are likely to be valued less by the industry.
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...rted.aspx#tab4

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    Hi

    I have just got the 70-680 configuring windows 7 MS Book. I have also watched some videos from youtube (professor messor), i have downloaded virtual pc and would like to know how I can get hold of some images to run VPC? Any suggestions!!



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