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    Re: degrees

    Lol Im not a heavy Linux user. I have a workstation, Censornet and a box running Nagios. All you would need to you is how to restart nagios, update Ubuntu etc and you can guess how to add new defintions for services. Easy peasy editing of text files :P I learnt most of my linux stuff poking around my CN box.

    Theres nothing else weird and wonderful here I like to keep it fairly simple. There are alot of scripts though but everything is well commented .....

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    Re: degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Yes I think he uses that weird Terminal Services thingy, nobody else uses it so you could always replace it with Ranger :P (EDIT: Or is that Ric_? Am I cracking up? Have I finally lost it? Find out next time . ops: :? )

    *runs in opposite direction from Chris*
    Ranger yuck! I love the real thing - Net Support Manager for me please

    No terminals for me either, full cream networking for me.

    @Tony mmm Acorns, got two sat here at present, A4000 and a RISC PC both working, well the A4000 needs a bit more TLC still IE new PSU but an old AT PC one works fine with it just not in the case obviously. No Macs for me, hate the things, Im a true PC Man through and through.

    @Chris, glad to hear its all nicely commented on, means if and when you go your replacement will be fine with it.

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    Re: degrees

    Doing OU degree Computer Science with honours...am also studing for LPI (Linxu Qual) taking longer than I thought about one module per year at about £150-600 per module join since I left school in 2002 so 5 years in...lol but worth it.

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    Re: degrees

    @linuxgirlie: £150-£600? So the price doesn't vary too much between exams

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    Re: degrees

    It depends which modules you take for example a project based module tends to be around the £600 mark, but a module with 4 tmas and 1 exam is about £350, a small 20 or 10 unit module only costs around £150. In total you have to do about 9 modules and a project I think.

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    Re: degrees

    I would stay clear of degree. I went to Uni for about a month when i decided a computing degree was a waste of time. I left uni to study from home.

    I started with the easy stuff and did Comptia A+ and N+

    after that i went on to do the 70-270 exam MS XP and now im working on the 70-290 Slowly working towards MCSE. as well as im doing the CISCO CCNA course at local CLC £500.

    Im happy i jacked uni in, i have got loads more experience and probably better qualified than some one with a graduate degree.

    stay well away from thouse companies that offer IT training, i went down that route and they went bust. i had to pay back my loan. Its cheaper and easyer to go out and buy the books. Also emule has plenty of testOut videos to watch.

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    Re: degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by bishopsgarthstockton
    I would stay clear of degree. I went to Uni for about a month when i decided a computing degree was a waste of time. I left uni to study from home.
    Being part way through a OU Computing degree (Started it at 31), I'm gonna disagree with you here.

    I've worked in IT since I was 20, and thought that degrees were worthless as some of the graduates I'd worked with were clueless. However if you put experience together with education, then things start to get interesting.

    The degree part is introducing me to concepts that in the past I would have passed over. As an example I didn't really 'get' Object Orientated programming and all the fun stuff with testing, boundry checking until I did the course, before that I was very much a nike coder (just do it). But now I have options.

    Logic trees, binary searching, stacks vs arrays and many other weird computing theory things.

    And of course there is the writing element. By writing degree level assignments you learn a lot about how to get ideas across and answer questions with relevant information.

    So don't knock degrees, however they only seem to get interesting in what would be the second and third year of a full time degree course. The first year seems to be just getting everyone up a to level to do the second and third year.

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    Re: degrees

    I agree with Budgester.

    Discounting the value of degrees *with* experience could be a dangerous career move.

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    Re: degrees

    budgester

    and thought that degrees were worthless as some of the graduates I'd worked with were clueless
    That was one of my main concerns

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    Re: degrees

    I agree with Budgester and kingswood, as a graduate myself when I left uni I found it very, very difficult to get a job, as i had no experience. I ended up taking a job as a technician, which was advertised as only needing BND / HND qualifications. 6 Candidates were interviewed, all graduates. I thankfully got the job.

    Since starting here I have moved up very fast, replacing my former boss as Systems Manager, when he left 18 Months after i started. I think the thing to remember is a uni degree / OU degree with teach you the theory behind things, so while they may not teach anything you go and use tomorrow, you know the theory behind it. It also shows a determination.

    Although somebody without a degree may also progress very high, maybe even higher than some graduates (because some are REALLY thick), you may find you hit a glass ceiling, especially when good graduates catches up on you with the experience and professional certs.

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    Re: degrees

    the A+ and N+ talked me the basics, pluss from an electronics engineering background, i personally feel i made the best decision.

    may be in a few years time i may consider looking at doing an OU computer degree.

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    Re: degrees

    Quote Originally Posted by bishopsgarthstockton
    the A+ and N+ talked me the basics, pluss from an electronics engineering background, i personally feel i made the best decision.

    may be in a few years time i may consider looking at doing an OU computer degree.
    The OU degree is hard work, not technically hard, you just have to get used to doing assignments on deadlines. I'm personally end up doing the reading a week before the deadline and spending two evenings doing the assignment.

    Which reminds me I've got an assignemt coming up at the start of feb, must start the reading.

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