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    My two-penn'orth.

    Expert status seems like a good idea, but you'd have to have sub-categories to indicate what you're expert in.

    For example I might earn the expert status on e-Safety, but if you asked me about Mac, I haven't got a clue.

    Personally I think it would be cumbersome.

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    It's easy just stick quals under your post MCSA/MCSE/CCNA...., people will take your advice if you have the relevant quals in the subject. Although you can still of course be knowledgable in a subject without.

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    I am thinking of ways for something like this to work. It has a lot of +/- with it and one concern would be how to judge the ranking etc.
    I will post me thoughts once I have mulled it over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnetman View Post
    It's easy just stick quals under your post MCSA/MCSE/CCNA...., people will take your advice if you have the relevant quals in the subject.
    You're missing a sarcasm tag there.

    The worst posts on the Internet probably have a sig containing MCSE, mainly due to the amount of bootcamp MCSEs.

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    The worst posts on the Internet probably have a sig containing MCSE
    I'll second "some of the worst".

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    I think this is a bad idea.
    If it's to make 'experts' happy they ought to grow up, because earning brownie points and badges is a childish preoccupation.
    If it's to help stop 'casual visitors' being burnt by dipstick advice/assertions, then they need to get used to it because that's what 99% of the net is like now.

    One of the few things that is still good about the net is that anyone who has done the work can say something clever on that topic and get a fair hearing based on their words alone i.e. regardless of their acronym collection, job title etc.

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    The worst posts on the Internet probably have a sig containing MCSE
    Yes there are people who do these exams from cheat sheets and bootcamps but as you say they are easily exposed if they have no experience.

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    Re - slagging off MCSE / CCNA / etc quals : But there are also those who seriously study and deserve the qualification on their own merit, not based on bootcamps and braindumps.

    My thoughts on this are as follows.
    I like the 'question open' and 'question solved' flag ... but on most places it is used it is down to the OP to say it is solved, and fails to take into account that it might also solve a question for someone when they find it on the search (or via Google) 6 months later. I would prefer 'nominate for wiki' to be a flag so that we have solutions and a wide range of options in a place that is more helpful ... but that is because I think wikis are better for these sort of guides.
    There are other forums who have regular votes for particular categories ... it usually involves nominations and then people are voted for over a few days. CertForums is one of the best places I have seen for this.
    There could always be a panel who decide to award things based on the last month, 3 months, 6 months, year of advice and help ... MVP style almost ... but I know that will then generate the arguement about who chooses who is on that panel.

    Personally, I am happy to give thanks for things which cheer me up, but that is different to Rep. However, we know Rep gets abused for petty reasons, like that comment to Gatt on his political choices, etc ...

    To some extent we could almost be self-selective by publicising our areas of expertise (ie what *we* think we are good at) and we would have to trust members to remove their areas of expertise if they are no good. In the same way, if someone is really good and does not have that badge then I am sure that enough people will say "go on ... stick it up there ... you're really good on that" ...

    If people abuse it by claiming to be an expert in an area yet fail to give advice when asked, or consistently give wrong advice, then Mods and Admins could be contacted to have a word.

    Of course, this relies on people agreeing to work with the system (and mods / admins) and not take offence when challenged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    I would prefer 'nominate for wiki' to be a flag so that we have solutions and a wide range of options in a place that is more helpful ... but that is because I think wikis are better for these sort of guides.
    *raises hand* Don't you remember the Chorley conference last month? We're getting a dedicated articles section for that sort of stuff. Aren't we?

    On a similar note, I quite like the stackoverflow/serverfault method of message rating and solving.

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    Here's an idea, why not tie the badges idea in Xbox style. If we are able to get the better breakdowns of rep from each forum you would easily have a system that gives achivements for certain points levels in a certain topic. They could even have well though out descriptions that made them both funny and informative.

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    I had an idea not sure if we could do it but how about linkedin style where people could add recommendations of a user to a users profile..

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by russdev View Post
    I had an idea not sure if we could do it but how about linkedin style where people could add recommendations of a user to a users profile..

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    On the profile and a miniture version under the badge

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    Re - slagging off MCSE / CCNA / etc quals : But there are also those who seriously study and deserve the qualification on their own merit, not based on bootcamps and braindumps.
    Agreed. But this is the Internet and a new user has no way of telling whether you fall into the "serious study" or "bootcamp / braindump" category. So using it as a metric for choosing which advice to follow is dangerous.

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    I actually think we have a pretty good system as it is. If it ain't broke; don't fix it!

    People frequent forums where they have expertise OR interest and help out when they can.

    When searching for solutions i'm more concerned with the content rather than the poster and any 'expert' status - it's my choice what to do with the advice, and if / how i implement that.

    I do know certain people and respect their advice in certain areas, and my opinion would stay the same regardless of an awarded badge.

    I sometimes come across a problem on a forum i don't frequent and can provide answers, sometimes because i got there first, being a few hours ahead, rather than because i'm particularly skilled in that area.

    In the MIS forum, some of us have now started to prefix the threads with the software used (yes it's mostly [sims]!), and also marking the thread [Solved] on occasion. It has just been a natural progression. Sometimes i find reading through the whole thread is often more useful, than just the post with the solution, as the process, and the understanding of what went wrong can be helpful for other issues.

    We're all IT specialists and everyone's input is welcome, i don't think we need to get bogged down in ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnetman View Post
    It's easy just stick quals under your post MCSA/MCSE/CCNA...., people will take your advice if you have the relevant quals in the subject. Although you can still of course be knowledgable in a subject without.
    How about topics such as e-Safety, for which elsiegie40 clearly deserves a "badge" or using Moodle, which you can be expert/specialist in but cannot have an MCSE for?

    Quote Originally Posted by penfold View Post
    I do think a breakdown of rep or thanks would be good to be able to make your own mind up, but I just dont see the need for extra badges of how good some members on here are.
    The advantage of a badge is that it would be clearly visible by the users' post, so at a glance through a long thread, we could see who knows their stuff, without having to read their post and then click some place else to see with what authority they speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    I actually think we have a pretty good system as it is. If it ain't broke; don't fix it!

    When searching for solutions i'm more concerned with the content rather than the poster and any 'expert' status - it's my choice what to do with the advice, and if / how i implement that.
    I completely agree - you read what people have posted re your problem and it is usually quite clear that some people know more about that particular problem than others, you look at the results and you make a decision.
    I think it would put people who may just happen to know the answer to that one issue (because they have battled with it themselves)off from posting if an 'expert' posts first.
    Also, the proposed solutions depend on rep which IMHO isnt given that often and certainly not automatically for helping solve a problem. For example, I am more inclined to thank people than give them rep.
    I think that even the 'division of rep' idea would mean a change in normal behaviour for a lot of members, and rep can be given for irrelevant stuff, eg a funny answer posted in a technical thread which would show up.
    I really don't think we need to do anything - if someone has the time and knows a lot about your problem, they will post and you get the help you need. Those who are not expert but have an idea usually say so - then it is up to you whether to chance what they say.

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