Is iCloud secure enough to save private or defence related documents ?

I have a query related to reliability of iCloud. Suppose a country wants to save its defence related documents or an organization wants to keep its important data on iCloud. Then is it recommended or safe ?

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Originally Posted by Stuartross

I have a query related to reliability of iCloud. Suppose a country wants to save its defence related documents or an organization wants to keep its important data on iCloud. Then is it recommended or safe ?

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No :) Next question!

Steve

a bit less safe than using a computer/switch/router made in china using closed sourced software.
If it is THAT secret it shouldn't go near a network!

You must be joking! :)

I genuinely lol'd.

I wouldn't trust iCloud with the data of my worst enemy.

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Originally Posted by Stuartross

I have a query related to reliability of iCloud. Suppose a country wants to save its defence related documents or an organization wants to keep its important data on iCloud. Then is it recommended or safe ?

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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :) ......... Oh, sorry, were you serious. Privacy and cloud are incompatible ideas, the cloud is about giving away your control, that should be a pretty big clue.

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Originally Posted by Stuartross

Suppose a country wants to save its defence related documents... on iCloud

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Governments have enough money to build their own private clouds. Why would they want to save top secret defence documents on someone else's servers, especially ones that they have little to no control over? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Arthur

Governments have enough money to build their own private clouds. Why would they want to save top secret defence documents on someone else's servers, especially ones that they have little to no control over? :confused:

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They don't have control over the network gear or the operating systems though - just ask the Iranian govt!

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Originally Posted by CyberNerd

They don't have control over the network gear or the operating systems though

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Very true (especially if they are made in China). :)

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Originally Posted by Arthur

Very true (especially if they are made in China). :)

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But that's the free 'cloud' backup feature. If you loose your top secret product designs you can just ring up China and get them to send you one ready made :D

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Originally Posted by SYNACK

But that's the free 'cloud' backup feature. If you loose your top secret product designs you can just ring up China and get them to send you one ready made :D

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:D

Saucer of milk for that man...

Catttttty!

Speaking as an ex-MoD employee that had to adhere to very strict JSP's (Joint Service Policies); No Way!

Pete

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Originally Posted by Arthur

Governments have enough money to build their own private clouds. Why would they want to save top secret defence documents on someone else's servers, especially ones that they have little to no control over? :confused:

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Thanks for reply. Finally the icloud data is not secure.

Then, what sort of data can I store there ? Are my private files, videos or anything, not so important?

When I left the MoD it was in essence building its own private 'cloud'. This was before we were all sold this 'cloud' phrase. The MoD has/had so many different systems it was mind boggling and with a consortium of large providers (namely the likes of EDS, BT, Fujitsu and others) was implementing a system that was global; you logged in with your credentials anywhere (be it an army base or on a ship) you had access to your files, e-mail, etc. It was one of the primary reasons for me wishing to move on, IT people where leaving in their droves as existing systems were denied funding to upgrade and being told it would work on the new system. Before I moved on, I applied for two separate jobs internally (and got offered both) to look after a server infrastructure for two large MoD establishments in Bath. I ended turning them both down as the servers were stuck on NT4 with no view of ever going over to any sort of AD structure due to these impending changes with it all being centrally managed. The HR people were not surprised when I turned it down and stated they just couldn't fill these roles at present. It was a shame, as I enjoyed working in the Civil Service for the MoD - but I'm thoroughly enjoying what I'm doing now.

Pete

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Originally Posted by FragglePete

When I left the MoD it was in essence building its own private 'cloud'. This was before we were all sold this 'cloud' phrase. The MoD has/had so many different systems it was mind boggling and with a consortium of large providers (namely the likes of EDS, BT, Fujitsu and others) was implementing a system that was global; you logged in with your credentials anywhere (be it an army base or on a ship) you had access to your files, e-mail, etc. It was one of the primary reasons for me wishing to move on, IT people where leaving in their droves as existing systems were denied funding to upgrade and being told it would work on the new system. Before I moved on, I applied for two separate jobs internally (and got offered both) to look after a server infrastructure for two large MoD establishments in Bath. I ended turning them both down as the servers were stuck on NT4 with no view of ever going over to any sort of AD structure due to these impending changes with it all being centrally managed. The HR people were not surprised when I turned it down and stated they just couldn't fill these roles at present. It was a shame, as I enjoyed working in the Civil Service for the MoD - but I'm thoroughly enjoying what I'm doing now.

Pete

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The problem was that they were talking about combining things when *I* left in '99! Good to see things have progressed ;-)

I do know that the joint service police system was done pretty much on time, to spec and is pretty well documented. There had to be a first for everything!