plexer (26th June 2012)
I've just read an Upgrade Announcement from MS. If you know for sure (or happen to be @jamesbmarshall) then:
1) Very roughly when might these upgrades happen for UK/Euro Live@Edu tenancies?
2) The free-for-edu A2 plan apparently won't be 'on' by default. What's involved in turning that on e.g. is it proper paperwork that has to be signed/faxed and so on?
3) Once upon a time MS did talk about providing education specific sharepoint templates. Will that happen, or is that aspect now "exactly the same" as Office365 for Enterprises?
plexer (26th June 2012)
Initially it will be an opt-in process that involves a tenant-wide password reset for every user. Over time customers will be scheduled and the upgrade process will become "hands free", so to speak, dropping the password reset requirement. If you have a particular desire to move this summer send me a PM. (Note: this is the busiest time of year for me, so don't expect an immediate response). The upgrades will start very shortly after the service launches.1) Very roughly when might these upgrades happen for UK/Euro Live@Edu tenancies?
Keep in mind that aside from a password reset, you'll need to think about AD FS 2.0 if you wish to continue to use SSO as the current SSO toolkit is not supported in Office 365 for education.
Existing users are brought across onto the Exchange Online Plan 1 SKU. From here administrators can choose to "purchase" the free A2 plan, or A3/A4 or any of the component SKUs as they require, and assign them to users.2) The free-for-edu A2 plan apparently won't be 'on' by default. What's involved in turning that on e.g. is it proper paperwork that has to be signed/faxed and so on?
The two platforms are technically identical. There are some education specific SharePoint templates that you'll be able to use in your environment, I don't have the link to hand at the moment.3) Once upon a time MS did talk about providing education specific sharepoint templates. Will that happen, or is that aspect now "exactly the same" as Office365 for Enterprises?
OverWorked (20th August 2012)
Thanks, but you've accidently written a little bit of that in Tangentese so some more on each point:
1) I just watched (bits of) this TechEd presentation and that says it's opt-in without then with passwords this year, and MS will start scheduling upgrades for everyone else at the "beginning of 2013" and it will take ~ 12 months to chew through us all. That's enough info for me then i.e. there's no credible threat of having to do related things in time I don't expect to have in the next few months.
2) When registering a Live@Edu tenancy we just had to chew through filling out a couple of web-form pages with credible school details stuff. Will the 'purchase' of the free A2 plan just be more of the same, or will we have to repeatedly nag real live people e.g. Heads/Whatever to do something?
3) So those education specific SharePoint templates will be present, available to use, out-of-the-box so to speak?
Last edited by PiqueABoo; 26th June 2012 at 10:05 PM.
When it comes to adding extra licenses, it's all done through the Office 365 portal - no need to involve anyone unless you're taking a paid service... then you'll need a way to pay.
The SharePoint templates will be available to download and import into SharePoint Online, they're not built in.
Found this on the new MS O365fE pages you linked:
"You will be required to sign a contract and attest that you are an eligible customer. Microsoft reserves the right to verify eligibility at any time and suspend the service for ineligible customers
Still not obvious how that fits with Live@Edu upgrades, but I'm imagining you'll have to do the same signing to go from the default E1 -> A2?
I was told that our 365 licenses go onto our EES as a monthly agreement, don't like the sound of month-to-month so does the "contract" confirm plan A2 will stay free for say 2 years as it was with Live@Edu?
[Some of the schools I have in mind don't have existing EES subscriptions etc.]
Last edited by PiqueABoo; 28th June 2012 at 11:20 AM.
So I just did a fresh signup which claimed to verify without issue, possibly because it was a "sch.uk", or one under an existing Live@Edu tenancy, perhaps they don't care at this initial point - dunno.
I added two A2s (Students A2, Faculty A2). Total cost £0.00, had to do something on the payment page so opted for annual rather than monthy invoice, skimmed and ticked box to agree to legalese and MS now own my house.... sorry I mean the new plans were immediately available to assign to users (as are the existing trial A3s that will expire in a few weeks).
So you are making an agreement on behalf of the org and if you're picking stuff with money attached it's obviously serious, but it's all online and there was no absolute requirement for manglement-bothering/signing/faxing/other.
Unless I'm looking in the wrong place no sign of education-ish sharepoint templates e.g. "Class' so I guess that fell off the MS to-do list. This is actually a bit sad because of the numerous small schools using this who don't have time/skills/money to get it sorted.
Last edited by PiqueABoo; 28th June 2012 at 12:16 PM.
If anyone else has way too much time on their hands and plays, could you please post a quick opinion. Key point for me isn't the perfection/otherwise, but is it enough for say small schools with occasional tech support who might have got them a Live@Edu to quickly get something useful out of the O365 Sharepoint?
jamesbmarshall - Thanks, I did eventually find those and install them but was not sure they were the ones you were talking about. They look good but are a shadow of the SLK stuff that I saw. Are there any plans to enhance the 'for education' bit with more templates? I deal with primary schools and more simplicity and education focused stuff would be appreciated. If not can you recommend any good tutorials on designing templates/webparts for 365 to tame it a little? Thanks.
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