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    Multiple O365 Portals

    I think I am about to get the OK to move from our onsite Exchange Server to O365 however I have a quick question....

    We currently have a 365 account for our students - domain is school.org; however our staff email domain is school.org.uk. Student email accounts and passwords are created manually at the moment but we will be using dirsync for the staff domain.

    Although I understand we can add another domain to our existing tenancy, we have been advised that it will be easier to manage if we create a new one for staff. Any thoughts on this from the experts? 😄

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    Easier to manage? I can't see why or how. Keep the existing domain/e-mail addresses for pupils and staff. You can even create aliases between the two different domains if that helps?

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    Putting everything in the same Tenant is the best method. Sharing between the two would then be seemless.

    Who told you separating them would be easier to manage?

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    Once you enable DirSync on a tenant you can not disable it.

    My advice would be to think about how you are managing pupil accounts now and how it is likely that you may be managing them in the future.
    If you split them onto two tenants you will find it easier to manage the pupils and staff on separate domains or else you will be setting up complex routing and content filtering. If you need some free advice, give our consultant a call and run your intentions past him.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    Once you enable DirSync on a tenant you can not disable it.

    My advice would be to think about how you are managing pupil accounts now and how it is likely that you may be managing them in the future.
    If you split them onto two tenants you will find it easier to manage the pupils and staff on separate domains or else you will be setting up complex routing and content filtering. If you need some free advice, give our consultant a call and run your intentions past him.

    Joe
    You can disable DirSync on a tenant. All users are then converted to cloud based users and they can be managed like any other cloud based user. If you then re-enable DirSync then the user will be converted back to a AD Sync user.

    Once you have the tenants created you cannot move the data to a new tenant. Therefore make sure you fully decide what you want to do s once done you may have trouble changing it at a later date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    Once you enable DirSync on a tenant you can not disable it.
    You can actually. There is now a De-active button under users.

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    We had a company in to provide a quote to do the work and their technical people suggested that it would be easier to manage because the domains are different and we won't be syncing the passwords for students - well not just yet anyway.

    From the responses to my post I'm still not sure which way to go so I may give CPL a call!

    PS

    I had the quote from the company today and I'm still trying to relocate my jaw

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    How much was it?

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    Well it was a shade under 10,000 - although there were a couple of optional items which would knock about 1100 off that.

    Bargain eh!

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    Multiple O365 Portals

    That's ridiculous.

    I know companies that will do it for about <edit> (not allowed to say I don't think)

    How can they justify that? How many accounts are there to migrate - not that that should make a difference.
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    There are about 300 accounts to migrate and I have no idea why their price is so high. I was expecting a price somewhere around 1500 to you can imagine my surprise when I got the quote.

    I would do it myself but I really don't have the time as there are a number of other things happening now and over the summer so I don't really want to overload myself with work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagrat View Post
    That's ridiculous.

    I know companies that will do it for about <edit> (not allowed to say I don't think)

    How can they justify that? How many accounts are there to migrate - not that that should make a difference.
    Yes, you can say. You can recommend suppliers as well

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    I'm in shock about that.

    Are they a big company who do big migrations? Just wondering if they have a set fee regardless of size or customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Yes, you can say. You can recommend suppliers as well
    In which case I know companies that have migrated >2000 accounts from an Onsite Exchange for around 1000.

    1500 is a good figure to be working with.

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    Yes recommendations are good

    They aren't a huge company but deal in a few different markets - some of which obviously have deeper pockets than the education sector! Having said that, they sent me a case study of a college they did exactly the same work for.

    Anyway suffice to say we won't be using them!

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