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Budgets and Expenditure Thread, How much do you earn and in what post? in School Administration; Originally Posted by webman Term-time ICT Technician working with bossman, North East (Durham County Council). 11-16 school with ~720 sutdents. ...
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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Term-time ICT Technician working with bossman, North East (Durham County Council). 11-16 school with ~720 sutdents. Was on £8,894 when I started at age 16 in 2003; now £11,887.

    A trainee technician post was recently open at the LEA for more than what I'm getting now, so I reckon the loswest they can get away with is probably right...
    Jeeze webman. You ever think of moving to brum, let me know!!

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Term-time ICT Technician working with bossman, North East (Durham County Council). 11-16 school with ~720 sutdents. Was on £8,894 when I started at age 16 in 2003; now £11,887.

    A trainee technician post was recently open at the LEA for more than what I'm getting now, so I reckon the loswest they can get away with is probably right...
    Seriously, Craig, do they not realise how flipping difficult it would be to replace you with someone with your expertise on your wage? Why do you put up with it? Someone only needs to take a look at your school website to know what kind of money you should REALLY be on. I'm being deadly serious... I'm on more money then you are, with both less experience and knowledge.

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    Well, yes... :? It's pay review time soon and have a letter prepared, so fingers crossed with that one.. and looking into the possibility of full-time. But then there's the county Job Evaluation - deadline of April 2007 - have we heard anything yet? No.

    What's keeping me here is the working partnership with Adrian; and that another job would have to be in the town where I live (currenty a 10min walk), or a significant enough increase so I could afford a car and its associated costs at my age. :cry:

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Well, yes... :? It's pay review time soon and have a letter prepared, so fingers crossed with that one.. and looking into the possibility of full-time. But then there's the county Job Evaluation - deadline of April 2007 - have we heard anything yet? No.
    The last I heard was that Unison was to take the LA to court due to them not meeting "their" deadline of April 2007. To be honest I dont think they are anywhere near to completition. :?

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    Ah, that sounds about right for here Andrew... knowing them they will keep trying to wriggle out of it for as long as possible. :?

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by russdev
    no longer called smut sorry i mean smt they are now slut sorry mean slt...

    glad it works out well as said previously here no money but if get classified as netman 2 means can get pasy rise after next year as of april next year i will be on on top band for it tech 1.

    So will see fyi here is draft of my letter only first draft...


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    As you know I have been here for nearly a year and half since starting the job the network and the job its self has expanded. When starting the job we had two servers and approximately 80 workstations. We now operate with 6 servers and over 120 workstations plus ADD NUMBER laptops.

    Also I took on responsibility of gaining quotes and ordering equipment and stock and have saved school a large amount of money. As you are aware recently I just saved school around £1000 in support contracts of equipment we no longer own. Often when getting quotes I have saved the school money often saving large amounts.

    As well as the work of Technician 1 such upgrading the hardware and software in the school, maintain records of the networks and general are responsible for day to day and running of the networks. I also ensure the all computers are available, software and various network connections are kept running and all the equipment is available for use. I provide assistance to staff and students and help develop student’s skills via classroom help and lunchtime clubs. As well as liaising with external companies in effect I have been a ‘Network Manager’ here.

    Added to that we have also taken part in numerous pilot study’s from QCA KS3 ICT SAT Tests to piloting RM software. Just recently I have been approached by RM to start initial inquiries about getting the school involved RM User Panels which shows how much profile of the school has changed since I have started working here and considerable amount of time outside of work maintaining the profile of the school.

    I have also taken upon myself to develop my personal knowledge by continuing my career development such taking the RM Certified Professional Course Level 1 exam with plan to do level 2 when it is realised, continued contact with other IT staff within schools. I am also looking to see if I can fund CISCO Networking course which is an industry standard training course. Also in next 12 months I plan on taking European Certification of IT Professionals as well.

    I understand in climate that this school and education in general found themselves in especially in Leicestershire. Asking for any kind of pay rise above the county requirements is not an option and in end amount of pay is not a deciding factor.

    At the moment I employed as a IT Technician 1 with 4 weeks paid holiday (plus bank holidays) off a year which can only be taken in school holidays.

    The biggest factor to me is being recognised for the job and profession I do which is why I am formally asking the school to consider increasing my amount of paid holiday by an extra week and that my job title is changed to Network Manager 1 but for my pay grade to remain at its current level.

    I also understand if this has to be done as part of a formal pay and work review and if this is the case I request a meeting with you for this to take place. I enjoy working here and with the staff and students all I am asking is for the work I am doing to be recognised.

    Yours sincerely


    Russell Dyas
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    go rus go!

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Well, yes... :? It's pay review time soon and have a letter prepared, so fingers crossed with that one
    At a guess, I'd say that they won't believe you. Whats that saying... "you don't know what you've got until it is gone".

    I mean of course, designing a website to that standard is just like using a word processor and requires very little skill. Also, helping run a network with both windows and linux based servers is a piece of cake... any idiot who can use a computer can work out how to set up a network. I mean, average people set up networks at home all the time, so whats so difficult at school?

    [/sarcasm]

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Yeah, all we do is put a CD in and press a button...

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    Yeah, all we do is put a CD in and press a button...
    Don't forget the coffee drinking and web browsing all day (as someone said in a previous post somewhere) (well, I don't drink coffee, but I'm sure some people believe I do... as for the web browsing all day, I suspect I post in here too often while I should be working. On the other hand, I wouldn't be able to get through my average working day without my daily dose of edugeek ).

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Employed full time as Network Manager on just under 16K (if job evaluation stays 'as is' will drop to just over 15K). Manage 9 servers (Netware, Windows, Linux), approx 250 workstations, 100 laptops 31 whiteboards (so far) and 50 assorted printers. Started 11 yrs ago as IT tech/AV tech and have a term-time assistant now (on approx 9K). My job involves the usual day to day tasks of keeping everything running smoothly, along with hardware repairs, hw/sw installs, network planning/design, ict procurement, the odd bit of cabling, A/V provison (inc theatre lighting), along with staff inset training/assistance/advice and pupil ict assistance (hardware parts of the sylabus and more technical topics).

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    Recently appointed as a trainee ICT Technician on £13,875 a year. This is before the April 3% rise, so hopefully now just over £14k.

    After reading this I appear to be very lucky to be at that wage scale on a trainee post.

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    I was an assistant network manager in the lofty SE, started on 17k in 2004, left on 19k in 2006.

    Have had a substantial payrise since leaving local govt and moving to the outside world; and don't regret leaving at all. Great stepping-stone and learning environment, schools are though

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    I'm full-time, employed as Network Manager, manage ~220 'things' (computers, servers, printers etc...), have to work term-time + inset (5 days) + 4 weeks, and have no formal IT qualifications (at the moment) - as I left uni due to financial/other problems.

    I earn £17.5k at the moment and it should be going up to just under £18k by September I believe. Not too bad for my first full-time, unqualified job (I do have a fair amount of experience from part time jobs, running my own business and from managing a mini-network at my old high school though). In a few years I will likely think about moving on, yet to figure out where though - as I don't like working for someone else's financial profit.

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    In September 2005 started on circa 15.5k, full time, 23 days holiday + bank holidays, as an IT Technician. With incremental rises this is now around 17.25K, which isn't bad for someone working to my original job description. I wish I knew who that someone was.

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    Re: How much do you earn and in what post?

    I am currently on 18 K which is due to go up this month and i am senior ICT Tech (Asistant network manager).

    We have 350 Windows machines, 70 Apple i Macs and 150 laptops. Plus 8 servers.



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