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    Re: BSF Services Costings

    Four points:

    You'd be mad to (use BSF to) fund consumables - get deptartments to pay for paper and ink - it will encourage more creative methods of delivering teaching materials to the kids.

    If the LEP or the ICT partner go bust the physical equipment should already belong to the Authority; you get to keep the kit. A new partner would be found and TUPE ensures that the techs are transfered (or so HR have led me to believe).

    Regarding the Managed Service Charge - ours is less than 100GBP pspa, and the schools have agreed to pay for the first five years - it is significantly less that the exisiting ICT spend, but it is more than the salaries of those to be TUPEd. This makes the 5yr pot to be in the region of 1.4 - 2.8 Million per school. Which ain't bad.

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    Re: BSF Services Costings

    Quote Originally Posted by psydii
    Regarding the Managed Service Charge - ours is less than 100GBP pspa, and the schools have agreed to pay for the first five years - it is significantly less that the exisiting ICT spend, but it is more than the salaries of those to be TUPEd. This makes the 5yr pot to be in the region of 1.4 - 2.8 Million per school. Which ain't bad.
    It may not sound bad, but be sure you are looking at the total cost of service provision before you get too excited.

    If the charge per student is less than £100 per student per year, based upon the conversations I have had with BSF Consultants, this level of service charge almost certainly does not include any funding for equipment replacement within the contract period; it will probably exclude equipment repair costs & replacements due to accidental/deliberate damage too. So by year 5 of the contract you will have a school full of 5-year old kit..... well used..... & no immediate prospect of replacement.... as there will be no money unless the school sets aside money year on year, or pays the service provider a lot more than £100 per student per year to fund replacement equipment.

    Also, when a student rips the keys of a laptop keyboard/jams a paper clip in an optical drive don't be surprised when your school gets a bill for engineering time & the parts to fix it, and it will probably be sent off to a workshop run by the service provider as schools are unlikely to have staff onsite (or workshop space) to effect a repair.

    Just ask your SMT how much space there will be for ICT technicians in the 'new' BSF school building....... & wait for the answer......

    At the moment I share an ex-ICT classroom with two technicians, it's our office, workshop, stores and server room. It is approx 8m x 8m with A/C. In 2-3 years time the 'new' school will be lucky to get a cupboard for toner and another for a rack of servers .

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    Re: BSF Services Costings

    Our Devolved capital for ICT reappears before the end of the five years. Also 30% of our PCs/Laptops will not be replaced initially and 100% of our IWB/projectors and laser printer will move across into the managed service.
    Thus at the end of the five years only some (c50%) of the kit will be five years old.

    For the most part Optical Media is a thing of the past for us, if the kids mash it up - so what? Besides our current 'maintenance due to vandalism' spend is less than the difference between the cost of the higher service level.

    If I can get onsite FoC repairs from HP/Dell/Lenovo so will any bidder have to who hopes to win our contract.

    Room space - it could be better, but at least we get a room with a window. The Music Technician gets a cupboard.



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