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    News: More than £11m 'wasted' on consultants


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    About time someone noticed!

    It's frankly bonkers.

    Butuz

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    That's a mad amount of money to be using on consultants. Why do they not have the expertise on staff to do this work?! £1.35m for one consultant!!! Crazy!

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    interestingly I have a friend who works for KPMG
    The report said that "in perhaps the worst case of using consultants" one advisor from KPMG was paid £1.35m over three years.
    I guess the drinks will be on him next time we meet up. Then again they didn't make becta's list of approved consultants

    Becta signs consultancy contract | Kable

    Steve Moss, strategic director for ICT at Partnerships for Schools, said: "High quality advice and consultancy is vital for local authorities and schools as they plan for and engage in the Building Schools for the Future (BSF) programme, and in particular when it comes to making decisions about ICT which can help transform how students learn and how teachers teach.
    Then again maybe "high quality" advice should be asked for from the people at the chalk face... And a whole lot less money "wasted"

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    "High quality advice and consultancy is vital for local authorities and schools" - about time they got some then instead of consultants who know naff all about education and the needs to T&L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face-Man View Post

    Then again maybe "high quality" advice should be asked for from the people at the chalk face... And a whole lot less money "wasted"
    The idea of using outside consultants needn't necessarily be bad - it's good to get a fresh look at things - but sadly it often is. I've rarely met a good consultant (possibly never but I don't want to be totally negative); too many of them really haven't got a clue.

    It's not just education or public sector that spends a fortune on consultancy - many private companies do the same. There seems to be a real aversion to making decisions so you bring in a consultant to make the decision for you and take a shed load of cash in the process!

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    My personal opinion and all that but:

    consultant = FAILED techie......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattx View Post
    My personal opinion and all that but:

    consultant = FAILED techie......
    I'd guess that means we'll see posts from you soon about "How can I get a job as a consultant" :-)

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    Last edited by somabc; 25th June 2009 at 05:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    I'd guess that means we'll see posts from you soon about "How can I get a job as a consultant" :-)
    Hey, thats my part time job.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by somabc View Post
    Love it !!

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    One minute we have people saying "go talk to the chalk-face" and the next we have folk saying that people who have left the chalk face to be consultants are actually failures.

    And they say politicians can't make decisions between them?

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    I believe a good ex-techie can make a very good consultant.... for a while.

    So many consultants begin from a position of strength, having been there...done the job... collected the t-shirt....

    But, their practical hands-on knowledge becomes stale over time; they end up delivering "you get what I know" solutions because they become out of touch with where the action is ... They cannot afford the time to re-skill or renew their hands-on experience because they are too busy earning money as 'consultants'.

    I have some sympathy, it is a hard life, in some consultancy practices when they become too stale to be employable they get fired & are replaced with new ex-techies who have up-to-date skills that are in demand....

    I think the best people are the 'specialist practitioners' who have consultancy skills, do the job, but can also advise others. You do come across these from time to time, but they are always regarded as being 'lesser mortals' than consultants and so carry less authority with clients & earn less money for their consultancy practices.

    You can find them in big IT services companies like HP, IBM, Cisco....

    Unfortunately too many clients rely upon consultants to make decisions for them, without listening to their own staff. Sadly, in many cases this stifles innovation and holds organisations back rather than helping. BSF is a case in point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    There seems to be a real aversion to making decisions so you bring in a consultant to make the decision for you and take a shed load of cash in the process!
    There is a fundamental aversion in Manglement to making a decision of any sort. If you get a consultant in, when it all goes wrong you can blame them.

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    Unfortunately too many clients rely upon consultants to make decisions for them, without listening to their own staff.
    Amen to that !!

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