Welcome, Register for free! or Login below:
EduGeek.net RSS Feeds Register FAQ Members Social Groups User Map Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Bad Experiences Been ripped off? Sold shoddy kit at over inflated prices? Then let the rest of us know about it here.

Go Back   EduGeek.net Forums > United Kingdom (UK) Specific Forums > Purchasing and Trading > Bad Experiences
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search Thread Language
Sponsored Links
Old 23-10-2005, 05:27 PM   #1
 
barryfl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Stevenage, Hertfordshire
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 barryfl is an unknown quantity at this point
Default HP Hell

Brace Yourselves......

Thought I would let you all know of a problem i have with HP at the moment...HP of all people too...

We have a few of their DLP Projectors which on the whole are very good. Well anyway one of them has gone up the creek and needs to be replaced. Its only 4 months old so its under warranty.

Monday: I phoned tech support and explained the problem...they let me explain the problem then told me that the technical team was down therefore I would have to call back another day (No call back was offered to me)

Tuesday: Called them back and explained the story again. The lady on the other end of the phone said to me "are you with the projector now sir?" I said "I am sorry I can't be because its bolted to the ceiling in a tech department that I don't have coverage on a phone to" she said "I am sorry we can't help you, You will need to go online" I then replied with "I have been and the symptoms show I need a new projector" she then said "ok well you can email this address" which I hastily said ok to and did that. I was told there was an 8 hour turn around. I did tell her that I would of happily taken away a task list and called them back with the results but Nooooo she wouldn't even do that. I would have taken the projector down but health and safety doesn't allow + I don't want to take the projector down if there is a simple solution (It has to be taken down by an external company which we would have to pay for)

Wednesday afternoon: Its been 8 business hours now, No response...I phone HP again. I go through the whole story again and this time get a case ref. I thought ooo we are making progress, She then said she still couldn't put me through although she could put me through to customer services. I spoke to a guy in customer services and he was very rude, Didn't understand that I couldn't take the projector down or be in the room at the same time (No I am not phoning you back on my mobile at the cost of 12p a min) He got really angry with me and tried to get rid of me then huffed and said ok sir I am going to try and put you through to the projector team but its on your head if they have a go at you (As if they would) they put me through to a call centre and although it took me some time to explain my story YET AGAIN the guy said oh yes that sounds like a hardware error (He didn’t get me to try anything so I have no idea why I needed to be with the unit) I managed to get them to send me a new unit within 5 minutes of talking to this guy I thought yes that’s a result

Thursday: New unit arrives, Scratched, Marked and tatty. They didn't even put labels in the box so that I could send the old one back. I call them back to say that I am not happy. They say I need to speak to logistics I say ok can you put me through "Err I don’t have permission to do that sir I will have to put you through to the projector team" my rage gets worse here..."Why I say its not technical support I want, Do you want your projector back or not?!?" "I will put you through sir" AHHHHH

I speak to some guy who actually said in 3 separate points "I don't understand what you are saying can you repeat" AHHH I say "Ok you know what don't worry about it"

I phone back the UK support line ask to speak to the most senior customer complaints agent and she puts me through. I explain the story again because they cant get the case on screen I am then told that someone will get back to me within 8 hours....

Friday: I am still waiting for a call + a reply to my email at the start of the week. What HP don't seem to realise is that schools talk about their experience with suppliers, I have just brought a load of HP Switches to upgrade our infrastructure...do they think i will be buying the other half with their company ? Hell No + We still have about 100 Win98 machines, I was pushing HP as the replacing supplier to take our entire network to CC3...Not anymore....Trading Standards are with me 100% and if i don't get a call by the end of tomorrow if going to phone back the very helpful guy @ trading standards and tell him to press ahead with the reference he gave me.

What’s really annoying is that I was so polite so they had no reason to be so unhelpful

Think that’s everything

Barry
  Reply With Quote
Old 23-10-2005, 07:51 PM   #2
metalmonkey
Guest
 
metalmonkey's Avatar
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: HP Hell

No where near as bad as your problem, I had a issue with HP last week.

We took delivery of a Deskjet 9800. It was DOA. The carriage had dropped, and was rubbing the page on printing, so was smudging.

Rung my supplier, who told me I need to ring HP to geta returns number.

Rung HP on the number my supplier gave me.

Went though to India. After 45 minutes of "Sorry, I don't understand" and "No, the printer DOES turn on, the carriage is smudging the ink" They said they would call me back within 10 minutes. I waited and indeed, within 25 minutes they called back. They said I rung the wrong number and should call another one. Spoke to someone in Ireland, they acknowledged the problem and gave me the number I needed with-in 3 minutes.

New printer turned up and the old one collected. Job done.

Why I had to waste 45 minutes of my life I'll never know.
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 01:51 PM   #3
 
barryfl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Stevenage, Hertfordshire
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 barryfl is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: HP Hell

Its good to know im not alone in the world of HP support hell, Seeing as i didn't get a phone call today i phoned them, She wanted to put me through to India again i went please no thats the wrong department i want logistics she said im going to put you on hold sir and see what i can do, I get a lady on the phone from logistics who says the ref you have given doesn't show anyone needing to call you back, I will update it and someone will get back to you, OMG!!! How hard can it be!!!!

And breath....Maybe i should give the Ireland number a call

Barry
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 01:58 PM   #4
 
ChrisH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Lancs
Posts: 3,980
uk uk lancashire
Thanks: 3
Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts
Rep Power: 22 ChrisH has a spectacular aura aboutChrisH has a spectacular aura aboutChrisH has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: HP Hell

Dont try the web support thats even worse :P
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 02:48 PM   #5
 
Ric_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 5,573
uk uk lancashire
Thanks: 29
Thanked 151 Times in 132 Posts
Rep Power: 44 Ric_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to beholdRic_ is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to Ric_ Send a message via Skype™ to Ric_
Default Re: HP Hell

I've never had these problems with HP - always spoken to a lovely lady in Ireland who has arranged to swap my printers out. Similar experience with the PDA people.

To be fair, the HP stuff doesn't tend to go wrong in the first place though.
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 04:17 PM   #6
 
ChrisH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Lancs
Posts: 3,980
uk uk lancashire
Thanks: 3
Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts
Rep Power: 22 ChrisH has a spectacular aura aboutChrisH has a spectacular aura aboutChrisH has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: HP Hell

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ric_
I've never had these problems with HP - always spoken to a lovely lady in Ireland who has arranged to swap my printers out. Similar experience with the PDA people.

To be fair, the HP stuff doesn't tend to go wrong in the first place though.
Have you just seen a good job advertised for HP?
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 04:20 PM   #7
 
Dos_Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Preston, Lancashire
Posts: 3,694
uk uk lancashire
Thanks: 7
Thanked 126 Times in 59 Posts
Blog Entries: 6
Rep Power: 40 Dos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to beholdDos_Box is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via MSN to Dos_Box
Default Re: HP Hell

I've never had a problem either. On call and a courier is there within a couple of days with a swap out!
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 09:07 PM   #8
 
barryfl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Stevenage, Hertfordshire
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 barryfl is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: HP Hell

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ric_
I've never had these problems with HP - always spoken to a lovely lady in Ireland who has arranged to swap my printers out. Similar experience with the PDA people.

To be fair, the HP stuff doesn't tend to go wrong in the first place though.
Have you just seen a good job advertised for HP?
Hehe...I know they are looking for enthusiastic, Polite telephone support reps as they currently don't have any.....

Don't get me wrong, I like the kit and it is some of the best kit out there for the price but it seems they have cut a few corners when it comes to support. I have had to deal with HP before and don't ever remember it being this hard, Though it was just a spare part job (Print server) of which they never picked the old one up...Strange, They never want old kit back.
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 09:22 PM   #9
 
GrumbleDook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Kettering, Northants
Posts: 5,110
ireland uk england
Thanks: 53
Thanked 205 Times in 109 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 54 GrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud ofGrumbleDook has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to GrumbleDook Send a message via MSN to GrumbleDook Send a message via Yahoo to GrumbleDook Send a message via Skype™ to GrumbleDook
Default Re: HP Hell

I have had bad experiences with HP printers and the subsequent testicle support calls ...

But at the moment the prize goes to Dell for me.

I love their desktops and workstations ... I even love most of their laptops but the last few months has been a bloody nightmare.

Queue a post about Dell
  Reply With Quote
Old 24-10-2005, 09:27 PM   #10
 
barryfl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Stevenage, Hertfordshire
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 barryfl is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: HP Hell

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
I have had bad experiences with HP printers and the subsequent testicle support calls ...

But at the moment the prize goes to Dell for me.

I love their desktops and workstations ... I even love most of their laptops but the last few months has been a bloody nightmare.

Queue a post about Dell
Oh yes i could start a new topic on our Dell problems, I will let you do the Honours if you are willing to share the issues you have had
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2006, 03:40 PM   #11
 
katie.lawe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Beverley
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 katie.lawe is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: HP Hell

We had the same experience with HP as barryfl, took us nearly 2 months to get a replacement projector!!

Then when it arrived it did not fit our mounting bracket. Our reseller or HP thought this was not their problem and offered us a new bracket at £90.

Thankgoodness for Technology departments in schools who were able to modify the bracket we had.

Having since been phoned up to answer a survey on HP I had great delight in telling them how appauling their Support service was.

Stay well clear is my advice
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2006, 04:37 PM   #12
 
pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: In the server room, with the lead pipe.
Posts: 1,038
Thanks: 26
Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 15 pete has a spectacular aura aboutpete has a spectacular aura aboutpete has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: HP Hell

I also hate contacting HP "Support".

Users laptop has a dodgy vga chip, so we send it back to HP, who advise us "courier will provide appropriate packaging". Hear nothing for a couple of days, so I phone them up for them to accuse us of sending in a laptop with a cracked screen as a "vga problem".

Screen was perfect when it left here, HP says it was borked when it got to them and emailed photos to prove it. So, looks like courier didn't provide "appropriate packaging".

Phone up courier, who do a bit of checking and hold their hands up and offer to pay whatever to fix it.

Sorted, no? Nope - because HP refused to accept that the courier broke it and, despite the courier phoning and emailing them to confirm it HP refuses to do anything.

I had to escalate this in writing through 3 PHBs at HP before someone woke up and realised that if someone else is going to pay, you don't need to ask questions - just fix it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2006, 09:24 PM   #13
 
john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern England
Posts: 4,379
uk uk yorkshire
Thanks: 92
Thanked 51 Times in 46 Posts
Rep Power: 24 john is a jewel in the roughjohn is a jewel in the roughjohn is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: HP Hell

The packing that they use for HP is normally amazing! Its sooo good I think its better than the original shipping boxes
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2006, 10:07 PM   #14
 
mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: x-communicated
Posts: 3,672
uk uk wales
Thanks: 37
Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Blog Entries: 2
Rep Power: 18 mark will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to mark Send a message via Skype™ to mark
Default Re: HP Hell

We need a script to counteract the script used by the support guys - it's a nightmare sometimes trying to interrupt it to inject some common sense and make them realise we really don't need to run any more diagnostics on this melted piece of plastic on the desk in front of us..
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2006, 10:59 PM   #15
 
ChrisC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 749
uk
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0 ChrisC is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: HP Hell

My main problem with dell is the seriously over excited automated hold guy that talks to you EVERY 5 SECONDS. I would be more willing to stay on hold if it was just their spacey sci-fi music stuff, but to have "You're call is valuable to us, and we don't expect you to be on hold very long!" then followed by a "We're sorry, but you're in a queue, please hold" then another 5 seconds of music, and another automated cheery voice.

Ugh!

Chris
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Register now for FREE and post messages!


Username: Password: Confirm Password: E-Mail: Confirm E-Mail:
Birthday:      
Image Verification
  I agree to forum rules 

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How the hell does this work!! Dos_Box Jokes/Interweb Things 18 21-11-2007 03:41 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search Thread
Search Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:48 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright EduGeek.net