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  1. cookie_monster's Avatar
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    Are you living in Oz or traveling?
  2. ahuxham's Avatar
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    I wish a software system was developed that would monitor an applications installed, and usage there after, I mean there are installation monitors to create packages, but nothing to follow it on from there, to monitor calls to folders, files and the likes and than create an export of the complete software package onto a new system.

    Would make life such a breeze, if changing a PC, you don't need to reinstall, you just backup the program and move it onto a new machines.
  3. CAM's Avatar
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    Good guide and very useful. Same method I used today.

    Quick warning though, BOOTSECT requires Administrator priviledges and will fail if you open the Command Prompt normally in Windows Vista (or Windows XP as a limited user). Users need to do the BOOTSECT portion of the guide using a Command Prompt opened by right clicking it in the Start Menu and choosing Run As Administrator. Otherwise it just says "Cannot trace a path to disk. Access Denied."

    This bit confused the hell out of me until I tried a command prompt with Administrator permissions and my problems were fixed.

    You can also jsut copy the files to a USB stick and run Setup while logged into Windows Vista if you want to cheat a bit. It copies enough files to C:\ to boot to Windows Setup to finish the job.
  4. EduTech's Avatar
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    Ah so that explains why you were not answering my phones calls and text messages ;-) you can have a break you know matey! i have some news for you lol!! yes it is to do with SharePoint hehe! its all good fun mate!
  5. TheScarfedOne's Avatar
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    @cookie_monster... think you are right, but even with the specify the username/password route - the same thing happens.

    Real pain, and took a while to find out what caused it.
  6. cookie_monster's Avatar
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    Hahaha i've just spent ages trying to fix this and found the same KB to sort it, I thought i'd post my findings here but had a quick search and bang someone has already come accross the issue.

    It's odd as we don't have any clients or servers running less than XP SP2/2003 SP2 can anyone tell me why we need to allow a policy that puts back the encryption to NT4 levels.

    I think it must be something to do with the "DoOldStyleDomainJoin = yes" setting.
  7. ZeroHour's Avatar
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    Thanks for this, very useful to know.
  8. verygreenpc's Avatar
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    Hey Stuart,
    Thanks for pointing me here mate. Feedback has been pro OCS rather than a branded ISP like MSN Messenger or an open source version so far.
    Cheers,
    Col
  9. verygreenpc's Avatar
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    Terry, how're you getting on with the SoftXpand mate? Even if it's bad, lemmeknow and we'll try and help out. Filled in the lunch poll and realised I don't take lunch because I'm EduGeeking now!
  10. jinnantonnix's Avatar
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    Thanks. As it happened it turned out really well. That nervous energy of not knowing what's going on seemed to help.
  11. Domino's Avatar
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    ha, thats why open mic nights exist....

    good luck, i'm sure it'll all come together in the end
  12. Edu-IT's Avatar
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    I've found the discs for this sent by Microsoft.
  13. Edu-IT's Avatar
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    I can't see 64-bit on the VLS site though.
  14. localzuk's Avatar
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    Nope, you pay for a license for a version of windows not different bit levels of it.

    So, you buy a license for 'Windows Server 2003 Standard' you have a license for 32 and 64 bit versions.
  15. Edu-IT's Avatar
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    Am I right in saying that a different schools agreement license is needed for 64-bit server installs?
  16. duportail's Avatar
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    Ok, thanks for the information.Than it would be nice if you and your partners would write on their websites that if the customers pushes the start button on their new Softxpand computer for x users, they are all in order regarding the Ms Windows xp licenses.
    I have my doubts :
    Review: MiniFrame SoftXpand Business - vnunet.com

    I will test this myself within a few weeks.
  17. verygreenpc's Avatar
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    Hey Multiuser,

    Some good points. The issue historically has been whether copies of the OS are created or whether the native resource of the OS is being maximised efficiently.

    Vera unless I am mistaken does not work for Microsoft. Our response came from Jackie Elleker, Licensing Specialist at M$ in the UK to our Gold partner MTB Computer Services, a corporate IT VAR.

    1 XP license per SoftXpand ecoware PC. Lovely.

    Kind regards,
    Col
  18. duportail's Avatar
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    Good day,
    I am still getting no clear answer regards the licensing.Ofcourse you can ship these computers with one or none xp license.But you give the rest of the responsability to the user.My question was simple:the pc is equipped with one windows xp, ok, but does the buyer needs additional xp licenses also?According the blog poster yes because he provides his licenses.Sure they cannot use CAL's because it's not windows server.And I think also no virtualistion licenses because you say on your website it's a mix of two things.So let the potentional buyer know if he needs to buy additional licenses or not.This is very important to calculate the total savings or TCO.As I see in the MS eula, the are not talking about license per cpu or pc, but license per session, so you need with your system one license per user.I staed this MVP already:
    "Multiple sessions to XP computer - Vera Noest [MVP]
    12-Feb-07 05:25:16
    You can't, XP is a single-user OS. You'll need a server OS like
    Windows 2003 for this.
    And yes, I know that there is 3rd party software which enables this,
    but you would still have to buy an XP license for every connecting
    user, apart from the 3rd part software."


    Just let us know:1 xp license per softxpand system for x users or 1 license per user ( so six users=6 xp licenses).
    I had the very same discussion with your partner in the Netherlands and he also could not give a clear answer.

    BTW: i am not a competitor because our systems are opensource, so the customer only choose closed or opensource.And Ncomputing is thin client soft, so that's another system.
    For the original poster:we do not use closed source in our systems, that's our policy of green computing.
  19. verygreenpc's Avatar
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    Hi Multiuser,

    We didn't aim to give the impression of aggression so please accept our apologies if this was misconstrued.

    MiniFrameUK intends that SoftXpand ecoware assist you in minimizing hardware deployment and support costs in a Multiseat computing environment. The end user via their reseller partners are solely responsible for any software licenses and licensing fees that may be required by third party software licensors. Please ensure that you obtain all necessary software licenses or check your existing software license agreements to ensure your continued compliance with the terms and conditions of such third party licensing agreements.

    All SoftXpand ecoware PCs shipped are preloaded with 1 copy of Windows XP as there is only 1 PC. We have already elsewhere on this forum posted Microsofts response that clearly indicated 1 copy of Windows XP, Vista, 7 etc is all that is required. This is because no additional devices with additional processing units are required.

    We think you have a fantastic solution and you should do well against NComputing where open source opportunities exist. If you do too well though, we'll release our own open source version! And we really did mean that we liked your new website.

    Although we compete against you, our goal I hope is the same; to minimise the embedded carbon in the IT sector by reducing the amount of PCs that need to be built, shipped, powered and disposed of. If we can save customers a few pounds too, then all the better.

    Over 10,000 SoftXpand ecoware PCs with 1 copy of the Windows operating system have been sold into the UK market.

    Kind regards,
    Col
  20. tmcd35's Avatar
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    Okay, I think I should respond to the last couple of posts before this turns into a slug fest.

    1) I'd be happy to try out the Debian Multiseat system IF you can include a version of WINE proven to work with all the Windows software we must run.

    This is the standard Linux conundrum. Once it is solved I bet a lot of Edugeekers will be lining up to implement Linux based systems.

    I have heard of one project that is combining Windows System Calls directly into the Linux Kernel - looks promising.

    2) Licencing. As you can see fro the specs above I am working on the basis that you need 1 Windows License per usable terminal. Even with this licensing model (and buying more Vista licenses than I actually need) both nComputing and SoftXpand appear cheaper per seat than regular standalone systems. See Prices above.

    For nComputing I've opted to use the Windows 2003 r2 SP2 license from our decomissioned Terminal Server, along with ths TS CALS, to license each seat in our Library

    For SoftXpand I've opted for Windows Vista Enterprise. The downgrade rights will allow me to use XP and Enterprise comes with 4 additional Windows Licenses for use in a virtual environment - eg. SoftXpand.

    Windows Vista OEM costs about 100 and the Vista Enterprise License was about 30 with another 15 for media. So 145 gets four seats fully licenses. Thats 36.25 per seat for Windows Licensing.