Originally Posted by GrumbleDook I am not sure about whether you are aware of the work being done by the OU and others through VITAL.AC.UK. It may be worth you having a good look. Thanks! Really worth of having a good look.
It will take time for them to build community... It is really a long term project. You can create your own course and then request administrators for approval. Who are they?.. No profiles, no information... The project is governmental. Will it be possible for them to create really democratic community?
I believe it is much better to create community first, motivate folks to share information, then several recognized experts create Expert Group. And noone asks who they are and wonder why these folks decide. Further not just Experts Group, but community recognizes the member as an expert and give possibility to sell courses. Is it OK for commercial projects only?
I am not sure about whether you are aware of the work being done by the OU and others through VITAL.AC.UK. It may be worth you having a good look.
@KWestos - yes I agree with you there. The best way to avoid this is never to install the client on a server. Just keep the server software for the server and use a desktop machine to control it.
@FragglePete/@Fatmas - It is an excellent product I agree. We have not been give .53 yet but I agree with you that the support is excellent and updates come regularly.
Just be wary of the policies!!!! We created a policy to shut down the pc's at pre-determined times. But I mistakingly scheduled it for there and then and it shut the server down (luckily it only had impero on it). Every time I booted up the server - it shut down. There was absolutely no way into the server except safe mode and then manually deleting the entry from the xml file. It's a bloody nightmare. Granted I should never have 'mistakingly' ticked the enable schedule now in the frirst place
I should have said and do agree that from what I've seen, the support has been excellent.
As Pete touched on, a fix has been tried this morning so fingers crossed they are close to the solution.
It's annoying the problem occurs at all as it has become such an important part of our job within the school. The ability to monitor the network, block inappropriate sites, content and language and to remotely control computers makes it worth what we pay, this is why we are so desperate for a fix.
We've been using Impero from V2 for coming up for three years now and it has been a fantastic product; worth every penny as it resolved a number of issues we were having. As soon as word got out at how sophisticated the monitoring was, things settled down. It was amazing how a few detentions (and letters home) backed up with evidence to show them (and their parents) brought the kids back in line.
V3 had to be re-written from the ground up for Windows 7, and yes its had its problems, but as I've mentioned their support team are very responsive, very professional and will deal with any issue like they are with us at the moment. The latest version we have v3.0.53 feels so much better but just a small issue at the moment which they have identified and are fixing.
The issue we've got we can work around by tweaking Impero when a user logs in and as a result with have decent Internet speed and monitoring (with a couple of elements disabled), but Impero have already contacted me this morning with a potential fix which we're trying. I have every confidence in Impero and will continue its use as I know its backed up by a decent team who won't just fob you off with an excuse.
Interesting, they are pushing hard for sales at present, I may just mention I have heard of some issues, what's occurring with them as I don't like the sound of the problems.
Thank you for inspiration, GREED! I started new thread on "New Project Ideas Thread". Will see more opinions and thoughts.
Completely agree, there support has been first class
Lets be fair to Impero here, the support has been excellent. The guys from Support remoted in today and spent a good half hour looking at the issue and believe they know what the issue is. Hopefully a fix will be forthcoming.
we are having the same issues, was told it would be fixed in 3.0.53 what tweaks have you suggested?
I think we would need to Admins to look at this, but is sounds like a great idea and this is the best environment for this already being a well established community with many trusted individuals present!
Let's launch the Community today! I'm in joking mood...
Any way, you suggested EduGeek as a good example. It looks like wonderful place to start Free-Lance Community. It will give experienced members possibility to monetize their knowledges and will be useful for newcomers to start quickly. What do you think?
Sounds like a great plan to me, and would have my full support (being a professional IT Trainer and all!)
You can find any information in Internet for free. It will take time to search, read, summarize information and move from basics to expert level. You can ask forums members for advise and casual folks will answer for free. Can this information be trusted? Yes or no... it depends.
If you would like to save time and get information that can be trusted you have to pay. Time value of money. You pay and affordable, accessible and experienced trainer trains and coachs you, track learning process and help you to get the most of the course in the shortest time and succeed. It is worth of paying.
Yes, you are right I suggest to create Free-Lance Trainers Community.
Ok next point. Using EduGeek as a base for the example, what would encourage users to pay for advice and training that other forums would offer for free (ok via email or the likes), or indeed other memebers of the forum?
Or, are we talking about setting up a training community (of such recognised experts) which others can pay for; we become free-lance trainers? I like that more!
I'll come back with more thoughts later!
Originally Posted by GREED Firstly, by what standards do you become recognised as an expert in order to be able to charge?
Don't get me wrong I like the idea, but just thinking through the problems I see! We can empower the community to recognise member as an expert. Here is how I have it in mind:
In your profile LMS-related information is viewed - My Courses, My Announcements, My Files, My Certificates. If you feel like to be recognised as an expert you just inform community that you run for Experts Group and ask them to vote. Votes from the members which passed your courses and members of Experts Group weight more. You are recognised as an expert, if at least 60% of your learners and 50% of Experts Group members who voted recognized you as an expert.
I don't think it is neccessary to get involved external experts.
Don't worry, I'm GLAD to discuss. I'm eager to hear opinions and analyze problems! Thank you
Firstly, by what standards do you become recognised as an expert in order to be able to charge?
Don't get me wrong I like the idea, but just thinking through the problems I see!